WEBVTT 00:00:02.479 --> 00:00:05.659 Hello to the media. You'll hear a statement 00:00:05.813 --> 00:00:09.113 from Prime Minister Robert Golob, 00:00:09.234 --> 00:00:12.321 who visited the University Medical Center today, 00:00:12.442 --> 00:00:16.968 but we'll begin with the Director General of the Center, Marko Jug, 00:00:17.089 --> 00:00:20.860 followed by a short statement from the Health Minister. 00:00:20.981 --> 00:00:25.840 Hello and welcome. We invited you, the Prime Minister, 00:00:25.961 --> 00:00:29.573 and the minister today to tell you about the progress 00:00:29.741 --> 00:00:33.227 made by the Medical Center thanks to investments 00:00:33.360 --> 00:00:35.766 by the Health Ministry. 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.059 The Medical Center has not seen enough realized investments 00:00:40.180 --> 00:00:44.144 over the past two decades, so we've had large shortfalls 00:00:44.265 --> 00:00:47.466 in diagnostics and other areas. 00:00:47.646 --> 00:00:51.183 Today, we showed you several acquisitions, 00:00:51.366 --> 00:00:56.483 one of the most significant of which is the completely overhauled 00:00:56.686 --> 00:01:01.026 diagnostic and therapeutic facility at the Clinic of Neurology. 00:01:01.180 --> 00:01:07.773 This culminated with the acquisition of an MRI with 3-Tesla technology, 00:01:07.953 --> 00:01:11.553 which is supported by only six MRI devices in Europe, 00:01:11.674 --> 00:01:15.353 and we're very proud of that. This device will enable 00:01:15.533 --> 00:01:19.525 quick detection of degenerative neurological changes 00:01:19.646 --> 00:01:22.823 and timely treatment in the future. 00:01:23.043 --> 00:01:28.713 Within the last few weeks, the University Medical Center 00:01:28.853 --> 00:01:33.186 has acquired three other MRIs with outstanding features 00:01:33.307 --> 00:01:37.523 in their respective fields. For instance, they allow 00:01:37.654 --> 00:01:42.243 robotic biopsies of the prostate and feature other technology 00:01:42.410 --> 00:01:45.736 that had not been available in Slovenia. 00:01:45.857 --> 00:01:49.283 In addition to upgrades in diagnostics, 00:01:49.420 --> 00:01:53.384 we showed our guests our new angiography device, which became 00:01:53.505 --> 00:01:57.540 the first step of the upgrade in the fall of 2022. 00:01:57.700 --> 00:02:00.638 The process is now over and enables the most 00:02:00.759 --> 00:02:03.740 up-to-date medical care for the patients. 00:02:03.861 --> 00:02:07.687 We'll soon begin to treat Alzheimer's and early dementia. 00:02:07.813 --> 00:02:11.163 We also presented the hugely successful project 00:02:11.284 --> 00:02:14.946 that we carried out in six months and which was vital 00:02:15.117 --> 00:02:20.766 for the transition to Phase II of the Medical Center's renovation 00:02:20.887 --> 00:02:24.413 in April, the second eighth. This is the renovation 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:28.186 of the former Occupational Safety Institute building, 00:02:28.307 --> 00:02:31.506 now know as Diagnostics and Therapeutics East. 00:02:31.627 --> 00:02:36.265 We've obtained 2500 square meters of floor space, where we'll move 00:02:36.386 --> 00:02:41.286 offices, medical school facilities, and other services 00:02:41.433 --> 00:02:44.903 from the main building, which will give us more room 00:02:45.070 --> 00:02:48.163 for our patients and enable future renovation. 00:02:48.284 --> 00:02:52.119 These huge steps were successful because the projects 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:56.126 were effectively managed by the Office for the Monitoring, 00:02:56.300 --> 00:02:59.879 Quality, and Investment in Healthcare, working with 00:03:00.066 --> 00:03:04.706 professionals who put patients ahead of everything else. 00:03:04.866 --> 00:03:09.293 I'd like to thank the Ministry of Health for their understanding 00:03:09.453 --> 00:03:13.346 that the University Medical Center is a specific hospital 00:03:13.467 --> 00:03:17.560 that requires the most up-do-date, sophisticated medical care. 00:03:17.720 --> 00:03:21.859 I also thank the Prime Minister for being aware 00:03:22.033 --> 00:03:26.980 of the Medical Center's future with ongoing development, 00:03:27.133 --> 00:03:31.773 and investment into translational centers, which will enable further 00:03:31.894 --> 00:03:35.633 therapy and development. The University Medical Center 00:03:35.826 --> 00:03:39.099 and Slovenia as a whole mustn’t be held captive 00:03:39.226 --> 00:03:43.306 by multinational corporations and pay services to foreigners. 00:03:43.473 --> 00:03:47.133 We need to develop and carry out therapies in Slovenia. 00:03:47.320 --> 00:03:51.579 We have the know-how, and we'll now have the infrastructure. 00:03:51.873 --> 00:03:55.839 I now ask the Prime Minister for his statement. 00:03:56.006 --> 00:03:59.166 Hello. 00:03:59.293 --> 00:04:06.259 We're all just human. Health is what we share, 00:04:06.380 --> 00:04:10.933 and what we value the most. 00:04:11.153 --> 00:04:14.666 A strong healthcare system has been a priority 00:04:14.900 --> 00:04:17.313 of this government since day one. 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:22.072 It's also a priority that we'll endorse 00:04:22.220 --> 00:04:29.413 to the voters on March 22 and carry out in our next term. 00:04:29.940 --> 00:04:33.632 The importance of strong public healthcare is something 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.259 everyone can see here today. 00:04:36.400 --> 00:04:41.763 Everyone, regardless of their financial means, 00:04:41.933 --> 00:04:45.739 has access to the most sophisticated and challenging 00:04:45.880 --> 00:04:49.459 medical therapies in the world. 00:04:49.646 --> 00:04:53.479 The devices that we have at our disposal 00:04:53.666 --> 00:04:56.119 in our medical centers, 00:04:56.280 --> 00:05:02.786 and the know-how of their employees is comparable 00:05:02.933 --> 00:05:07.286 to the best in the world. At that's how it should be. 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.813 We Slovenians deserve to have the best treatments 00:05:10.980 --> 00:05:13.959 available to us. 00:05:14.273 --> 00:05:18.733 The goal of every government should be to strengthen 00:05:18.860 --> 00:05:21.999 the expertise and motivation of those employed 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.552 in the healthcare system and ensure 00:05:24.686 --> 00:05:28.166 that the working conditions are as good as possible, 00:05:28.326 --> 00:05:31.539 the equipment as up-to-date as possible, 00:05:31.660 --> 00:05:35.712 and that professionals can carry out their mission. 00:05:35.833 --> 00:05:42.712 I'm glad that whenever I visit a medical facility, 00:05:42.893 --> 00:05:47.672 I see sparkles in the eyes of the employees. 00:05:47.820 --> 00:05:52.507 It reflects their wish to acquire knowledge, 00:05:52.673 --> 00:05:56.163 to ease their fellow human's pain, 00:05:56.293 --> 00:06:00.372 to improve their health, 00:06:00.493 --> 00:06:05.212 and primarily to contribute to a better community. 00:06:05.833 --> 00:06:11.758 I'd like to reiterate my gratitude to all the medical staff, 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:16.480 including doctors, carers, midwives, and nurses, 00:06:16.686 --> 00:06:19.553 all employees in the healthcare system, 00:06:19.733 --> 00:06:24.319 that you're here for us when we need you, 00:06:24.466 --> 00:06:26.972 when we can't help ourselves, 00:06:27.140 --> 00:06:31.292 and you're the ones who take care of us. 00:06:31.826 --> 00:06:35.939 This government will work hard to ensure several things. 00:06:36.106 --> 00:06:41.579 One of them is providing sufficient funds 00:06:41.713 --> 00:06:47.932 and understanding to ensure optimal working conditions. 00:06:48.300 --> 00:06:51.066 Only this way will those of you employed 00:06:51.220 --> 00:06:55.512 in public healthcare be able carry out your mission. Thank you. 00:06:55.633 --> 00:07:00.106 I apologize for my hoarse voice, but you're no longer the only ones 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.846 with night shifts. We now have them too. 00:07:04.013 --> 00:07:07.459 A noble mission is what keeps you awake 00:07:07.653 --> 00:07:11.252 even when the body would prefer to sleep. 00:07:11.373 --> 00:07:15.326 Thank you. -Thank you for the statement. 00:07:16.646 --> 00:07:20.836 Prime Minister, can you tell us something about the evacuation? 00:07:20.983 --> 00:07:24.962 We'll carry on. All the other speakers are at your disposal. 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:28.079 The minister may make a short statement, 00:07:28.253 --> 00:07:31.372 and then we'll take your questions. 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:37.099 I'd like to add something to what the Prime Minister mentioned. 00:07:37.326 --> 00:07:42.103 These devices don't just ensure greater access to excellent care 00:07:42.286 --> 00:07:46.852 or shorter waiting times, but another important thing. 00:07:47.060 --> 00:07:53.023 They give our employees, or best professionals, a sense 00:07:53.226 --> 00:07:56.353 that the future is bright and that working hard 00:07:56.474 --> 00:07:58.154 for people is worth it. 00:07:58.333 --> 00:08:03.663 I'd like to ask the medical directors 00:08:03.806 --> 00:08:09.086 of the Neurology Clinic and the Radiology Institute 00:08:09.226 --> 00:08:12.266 to tell us how they perceive this progress 00:08:12.433 --> 00:08:15.366 and what it means for the employees. 00:08:15.533 --> 00:08:19.532 I'd like to ask Associate Professor Plut, 00:08:19.673 --> 00:08:22.659 the acting head of the Radiology Institute, 00:08:22.780 --> 00:08:25.392 how employees see this progress. 00:08:25.536 --> 00:08:33.343 Thank you. I'm grateful for the new imaging devices. 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.532 The previous devices were out-of-date. 00:08:37.660 --> 00:08:41.812 The oldest replaced device was made in 2000. 00:08:41.963 --> 00:08:44.979 We received four new MRIs that will allow us 00:08:45.180 --> 00:08:49.566 to carry out our work on the highest level. 00:08:49.713 --> 00:08:52.652 We'll get better images that will enable us 00:08:52.773 --> 00:08:57.485 to recognize illnesses faster and easier. 00:08:57.606 --> 00:09:01.866 We'll be able to do more and do it better. 00:09:01.987 --> 00:09:05.426 This is vital for what we do. We radiologists depend 00:09:05.547 --> 00:09:09.293 significantly on our devices. Know-how can't help us 00:09:09.413 --> 00:09:13.879 if we don't have machines to recognize illnesses. 00:09:14.026 --> 00:09:18.712 This is a big deal for radiology. 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:24.332 Here's Maja Trošt, the medical director of the Neurology Clinic. 00:09:24.506 --> 00:09:30.453 Hello. We neurologists are also grateful 00:09:30.574 --> 00:09:33.086 for these new acquisitions. 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:36.412 We're the ones who refer patients to various 00:09:36.580 --> 00:09:41.759 imaging examinations of brain arteries and the like. 00:09:41.880 --> 00:09:45.959 Based on what the neurologist tells us, we set up 00:09:46.113 --> 00:09:49.903 further diagnostic tests and therapy. 00:09:50.026 --> 00:09:53.372 New imaging devices enable us to diagnose 00:09:53.526 --> 00:10:01.332 patients faster and more accurately. Patients don't need to undergo 00:10:01.520 --> 00:10:05.732 additional examinations because the new 3-Tesla MRI imaging 00:10:05.853 --> 00:10:09.557 will give us more information than ever before. 00:10:09.634 --> 00:10:12.099 We're also an educational institution, 00:10:12.182 --> 00:10:18.014 and neuroradiology is a field where many experts are trained, 00:10:18.252 --> 00:10:23.384 including doctors from various disciplines, engineers, and so on. 00:10:23.467 --> 00:10:26.118 We're also a research institution, 00:10:26.201 --> 00:10:28.809 and the newer equipment allows us 00:10:28.892 --> 00:10:35.598 to truly flourish and have a bright future in research, 00:10:35.682 --> 00:10:40.584 so we're grateful and look forward to working with the new equipment. 00:10:40.667 --> 00:10:44.070 Thank you very much. 00:10:44.530 --> 00:10:47.393 Madam Minister. -You've already said everything. 00:10:47.476 --> 00:10:50.574 I'm very happy that this has happened. -Thank you. 00:10:50.657 --> 00:10:54.673 Thank you all. -We have a few questions. 00:10:54.853 --> 00:10:58.598 What did it mean for you to have to rent the equipment 00:10:58.681 --> 00:11:03.931 and what else will you need in terms of equipment wear and tear? 00:11:04.047 --> 00:11:07.764 In the last year, in order to compensate for the loss 00:11:07.847 --> 00:11:10.601 of the old equipment that had broken down 00:11:10.684 --> 00:11:15.184 and for the time required to install new equipment, 00:11:15.268 --> 00:11:19.581 which took about three months, we had to rent external equipment. 00:11:19.664 --> 00:11:24.594 We're currently providing services on three rented MR devices, 00:11:24.677 --> 00:11:28.089 which cost us a million euros in a year. 00:11:28.249 --> 00:11:33.416 These costs could gradually cover the value of a single device, 00:11:33.504 --> 00:11:38.458 and modern devices will enable more services, 00:11:39.387 --> 00:11:44.593 less cost-intensive services, and faster services. 00:11:44.677 --> 00:11:48.569 Of course, this will also lead to better business results. 00:11:48.652 --> 00:11:53.143 But we needed these rented devices. 00:11:53.265 --> 00:11:56.604 I apologize to the patients for having to be treated 00:11:56.687 --> 00:11:58.685 in rented external devices, 00:11:58.768 --> 00:12:03.201 but this was the only way we could ensure continuous treatment. 00:12:03.284 --> 00:12:06.025 What are your next urgent needs? 00:12:06.584 --> 00:12:09.396 In the field of radiology, 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.060 an additional PET-CT device is needed, 00:12:12.143 --> 00:12:15.385 which will also be important in the treatment of dementia. 00:12:15.468 --> 00:12:22.199 This is a project that we plan to carry out sometime this year. 00:12:22.495 --> 00:12:26.906 Last year, we managed to secure an additional robotic device 00:12:26.989 --> 00:12:29.584 just before the end of the year. 00:12:29.667 --> 00:12:33.593 The next major investment for us in terms of equipment 00:12:33.676 --> 00:12:35.305 is an additional angiography machine, 00:12:35.388 --> 00:12:39.021 a replacement for the existing quite worn-out angiography machine 00:12:39.104 --> 00:12:41.145 for the treatment of cardiovascular diseases. 00:12:41.228 --> 00:12:48.744 We perform an exceptional number of heart artery expansions, 00:12:49.066 --> 00:12:51.255 thereby saving many lives. 00:12:51.339 --> 00:12:54.384 An additional investment this year, 00:12:54.468 --> 00:12:59.027 which will come from the very limited depreciation, 00:12:59.352 --> 00:13:02.352 will be the development of a biobank. 00:13:02.902 --> 00:13:07.003 This bank will form the basis for further development 00:13:07.086 --> 00:13:09.090 and research activities. 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:16.031 There will be other additional operating rooms financed by UMCL, 00:13:16.183 --> 00:13:20.180 while the Ministry of Health is also financing 00:13:20.264 --> 00:13:22.884 the completion of the emergency surgery block, 00:13:22.967 --> 00:13:25.022 which is proceeding according to plan. 00:13:25.105 --> 00:13:27.929 Completion is expected in the summer. 00:13:28.012 --> 00:13:31.593 Resuscitation rooms are being equipped 00:13:31.677 --> 00:13:34.093 with new photon counting CTs. 00:13:34.687 --> 00:13:40.103 The renovation of this eighth is now being completed, 00:13:40.187 --> 00:13:44.006 and in two weeks we will open the first two floors, 00:13:44.089 --> 00:13:48.053 the seventh and eighth floors, and then two floors at a time. 00:13:48.136 --> 00:13:51.712 We have determined that we must do this gradually, 00:13:51.795 --> 00:13:55.115 as moving the entire eighth of the hospital would mean 00:13:55.198 --> 00:13:58.490 shutting down the hospital for a few days, 00:13:58.573 --> 00:14:00.574 which we can't afford to do. 00:14:00.657 --> 00:14:05.354 The infectious diseases clinic is running according to plan, 00:14:05.437 --> 00:14:11.422 and demolition of the other part of it will begin shortly, 00:14:11.506 --> 00:14:14.749 which will create the conditions for the construction 00:14:14.832 --> 00:14:16.946 of the gastroenterology clinic. 00:14:17.029 --> 00:14:21.542 An extraordinary number of projects on 85,000 square meters of space, 00:14:21.625 --> 00:14:25.827 which represents one-third of all healthcare space at UMCL. 00:14:25.910 --> 00:14:28.407 Because of this, I ask for your understanding 00:14:28.490 --> 00:14:31.507 that there are currently so many renovations 00:14:31.590 --> 00:14:36.157 and new constructions underway, which makes work more difficult. 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:44.140 The new equipment is expected to increase capacity by 20 percent. 00:14:44.224 --> 00:14:46.600 Do you have that many programs 00:14:46.683 --> 00:14:49.753 approved by the Health Insurance Institute? 00:14:49.836 --> 00:14:52.803 That way they would be fully utilized, 00:14:52.886 --> 00:14:56.118 and waiting lists would be shortened. 00:14:56.202 --> 00:15:00.786 When we talk about magnetic resonance imaging, 00:15:00.870 --> 00:15:04.615 we must be aware that outpatient examinations 00:15:04.699 --> 00:15:06.916 performed by concessionaires 00:15:06.999 --> 00:15:11.197 are all counted in the Health Insurance Institute's treatment 00:15:11.280 --> 00:15:13.679 and are also paid for separately. 00:15:13.762 --> 00:15:19.659 We use the equipment largely for imaging hospitalized patients 00:15:19.805 --> 00:15:24.247 and don't charge the Health Insurance Institute extra for these services, 00:15:24.330 --> 00:15:28.449 thus utilizing at least 50% of the equipment. 00:15:28.955 --> 00:15:32.190 Now that we only had two or three of these devices, 00:15:32.273 --> 00:15:37.186 we had to devote most of our time to hospitalized patients 00:15:37.270 --> 00:15:41.240 who were given priority, and we could devote less time 00:15:41.323 --> 00:15:43.003 to outpatient care. 00:15:43.115 --> 00:15:48.874 Now, however, we will be able to devote more time to outpatient care. 00:15:48.958 --> 00:15:52.916 This will allow us to do much more outpatient work, 00:15:52.999 --> 00:15:56.065 which will also generate revenue. 00:15:56.149 --> 00:16:01.468 We expect not only smoother but also more successful operations. 00:16:01.552 --> 00:16:06.794 Shortening waiting lists, above all. -Shortening waiting lists for sure. 00:16:06.877 --> 00:16:11.812 However, I must emphasize again and again that we have waiting lists 00:16:11.895 --> 00:16:16.156 for things that are extremely important and can also be complex, 00:16:16.239 --> 00:16:20.675 such as magnetic resonance imaging with contrast agents 00:16:20.758 --> 00:16:24.791 or, on the other hand, magnetic resonance imaging of the knee. 00:16:24.874 --> 00:16:28.090 On the one hand, magnetic resonance imaging of the knee 00:16:28.173 --> 00:16:31.612 requires three sequences or twelve minutes of treatment, 00:16:31.695 --> 00:16:34.087 on the other hand, a complex examination 00:16:34.170 --> 00:16:37.300 can last from an hour and a half to two hours. 00:16:37.383 --> 00:16:39.156 We're focusing on this 00:16:39.239 --> 00:16:44.401 because people need these very complex examinations more, 00:16:44.485 --> 00:16:46.653 even though they are underfunded, 00:16:46.736 --> 00:16:52.277 and don't allow for a large number of examinations. 00:16:52.457 --> 00:16:59.291 Waiting lists for these critical diagnostics will certainly shorten, 00:16:59.375 --> 00:17:01.641 but this will not affect accessibility 00:17:01.724 --> 00:17:04.593 of the MR of the knee or elbow. 00:17:04.926 --> 00:17:07.086 Do you have enough employees? 00:17:07.169 --> 00:17:12.127 We do, UMCL employs 70 radiologists 00:17:12.211 --> 00:17:14.826 and numerous radiological engineers. 00:17:14.909 --> 00:17:18.241 These new devices are important precisely from this perspective, 00:17:18.324 --> 00:17:21.957 so that the people who work here can see the prospects for development, 00:17:22.040 --> 00:17:23.720 including research, 00:17:23.804 --> 00:17:28.165 and know that they will be working here on the best possible equipment. 00:17:28.248 --> 00:17:32.514 Are there mechanisms for rewarding employees, 00:17:32.598 --> 00:17:35.345 from contract work and so on? 00:17:35.529 --> 00:17:39.236 A lot of afternoon work is done on a contract basis. 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:41.841 This tool has helped a lot, 00:17:41.925 --> 00:17:48.073 but again, contract work can be done for profitable services, 00:17:48.248 --> 00:17:51.079 i.e. for simpler services. 00:17:51.163 --> 00:17:56.290 Therefore, services that are somewhat simpler are performed in that area. 00:17:56.373 --> 00:17:59.443 There are no profits for more complex services, 00:17:59.526 --> 00:18:02.942 and contract work is not an option either. 00:18:03.104 --> 00:18:07.018 In an interview for Mladina, you said that many unnecessary 00:18:07.101 --> 00:18:11.511 or non-essential procedures are performed in Slovenia. 00:18:11.594 --> 00:18:16.514 How would you suggest this be resolved? 00:18:19.582 --> 00:18:24.414 We have said that in large systems, for example in Germany, 00:18:24.497 --> 00:18:30.707 it has been found that a significant proportion of certain activities 00:18:30.791 --> 00:18:34.530 may be unnecessary. However, it's extremely difficult to assess 00:18:34.613 --> 00:18:39.991 what is necessary, so guidelines need to be prepared by experts. 00:18:40.301 --> 00:18:43.296 Unfortunately, in Slovenia, we don't have many guidelines 00:18:43.379 --> 00:18:45.371 that would provide specific guidance 00:18:45.454 --> 00:18:49.449 to all the various specialists and doctors at the primary level. 00:18:49.532 --> 00:18:54.873 I believe this is the first step that experts must take 00:18:55.142 --> 00:18:58.890 in cooperation with the Health Insurance Institute, 00:18:58.973 --> 00:19:02.893 and I propose that the Health Insurance Institute 00:19:02.976 --> 00:19:05.918 form teams and provide them with financial incentives 00:19:06.001 --> 00:19:09.071 to develop guidelines that will serve as a basis 00:19:09.154 --> 00:19:11.279 for further referrals. 00:19:11.429 --> 00:19:17.107 What happens? When unnecessary diagnostic tests are performed, 00:19:17.191 --> 00:19:22.441 this takes away space from people who actually need these tests. 00:19:24.856 --> 00:19:26.456 Thank you.