WEBVTT 00:00:04.898 --> 00:00:07.117 Greetings, Deputy PM Matej Arčon 00:00:07.238 --> 00:00:11.828 will present the proceedings of today's 101st government meeting. 00:00:12.625 --> 00:00:18.429 Thank you. Greetings, let me begin with the current issue, 00:00:18.550 --> 00:00:23.898 the pension changes or rather the pension reform. 00:00:24.523 --> 00:00:30.741 Today we internally discussed starting points 00:00:31.164 --> 00:00:35.998 and appointed an appropriate coordination group, that will, 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:40.953 in light of the revival of the Economic and Social Council, 00:00:41.074 --> 00:00:44.158 cooperate with a core group of the ESC 00:00:44.279 --> 00:00:47.446 to definitively coordinate standpoints, 00:00:47.567 --> 00:00:52.274 which will then enter procedure at the Economic and Social Council. 00:00:52.395 --> 00:00:57.729 That was also one of the purposes of the Prime Minister's meeting 00:00:57.850 --> 00:01:01.017 with the ESC representatives yesterday. 00:01:01.559 --> 00:01:07.363 We are hoping for a different work method than we have had so far. 00:01:07.590 --> 00:01:12.425 The coalition did commit to first adopting the starting points, 00:01:12.660 --> 00:01:15.403 presenting them to the ESC 00:01:15.524 --> 00:01:21.311 and then begin preparing appropriate legislative material, 00:01:21.432 --> 00:01:24.312 be they acts or regulatory acts. 00:01:25.085 --> 00:01:28.757 The only thing I can currently say is that, 00:01:28.878 --> 00:01:31.859 in light of the pension reform, 00:01:32.140 --> 00:01:35.224 the length of service will not change. 00:01:36.808 --> 00:01:42.474 Regarding the floods, today we confirmed the list of buildings 00:01:42.595 --> 00:01:45.608 to be removed in Ljubno and Luče. 00:01:46.379 --> 00:01:50.629 The decision for someone to relocate is always hard, 00:01:50.933 --> 00:01:54.850 that is why such a decision was not made easily. 00:01:55.301 --> 00:01:59.387 But I can say that it is based on professional assessments 00:01:59.508 --> 00:02:03.622 and with the single purpose of ensuring people's safety. 00:02:03.911 --> 00:02:07.762 Initially, we are talking about 20 buildings. 00:02:08.127 --> 00:02:12.494 The State will fully reimburse the owners their assessed value 00:02:12.615 --> 00:02:15.674 and will be giving them a choice, 00:02:16.034 --> 00:02:20.619 whether to opt for a payment of compensation, 00:02:21.112 --> 00:02:24.088 construction of a replacement 00:02:24.323 --> 00:02:28.807 or for the State to purchase a replacement property for them. 00:02:29.323 --> 00:02:32.909 Of course, the owners have been notified of this. 00:02:33.330 --> 00:02:40.424 A resolution on the next 17 homes will be discussed in May. 00:02:42.244 --> 00:02:46.940 At the meeting we also adopted a very important act 00:02:48.088 --> 00:02:50.941 regarding the rehabilitation 00:02:51.062 --> 00:02:55.729 of the area around the old zinc plant in the Celje Basin. 00:02:55.850 --> 00:03:00.774 which is currently abandoned and degraded 00:03:01.221 --> 00:03:05.741 due to past industrial activity, as we all know. 00:03:06.135 --> 00:03:10.469 The government wants to therefore bite the sour apple 00:03:10.901 --> 00:03:14.418 and, in a sort of historical moment, even, 00:03:14.613 --> 00:03:17.502 begin rehabilitating the area, 00:03:17.638 --> 00:03:21.962 adopting certain spatial development acts 00:03:22.174 --> 00:03:28.807 and allocating funds for the rehabilitation of this area. 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.681 More on this matter will be provided 00:03:31.802 --> 00:03:34.799 at the press conference in Celje on Friday. 00:03:35.346 --> 00:03:39.180 Regarding good news, the government has decided 00:03:39.301 --> 00:03:42.513 to grant 3 million euros in incentives 00:03:42.634 --> 00:03:46.334 for the construction of low-energy houses. 00:03:46.521 --> 00:03:48.888 The aim is to grant the incentives 00:03:49.009 --> 00:03:51.669 through public tender to 200 families, 00:03:51.896 --> 00:03:55.128 which will opt to either purchase or construct 00:03:55.249 --> 00:03:57.910 a building with low energy consumption 00:03:58.031 --> 00:04:00.166 and efficient use of rainwater. 00:04:00.693 --> 00:04:04.027 22.5 million euros will also be available 00:04:04.148 --> 00:04:06.716 for solving energy poverty. 00:04:06.837 --> 00:04:09.380 The incentives will also be intended 00:04:09.501 --> 00:04:17.154 for low-income households to acquire more economical energy sources. 00:04:17.313 --> 00:04:19.897 Some more good news for Kočevje, 00:04:20.173 --> 00:04:23.825 where they will be laying the foundation stone today 00:04:23.946 --> 00:04:28.083 for the new investments by the Japanese corporation Yaskawa, 00:04:28.204 --> 00:04:32.434 worth 32 million euros. The foundation stone-laying ceremony 00:04:32.555 --> 00:04:35.941 will also be attended by the Prime Minister. 00:04:36.226 --> 00:04:40.325 Thank you. The deputy PM will be answering questions, 00:04:40.446 --> 00:04:46.372 and Luka Mesec will talk about the pension changes. 00:04:48.740 --> 00:04:50.874 Let us begin in here. 00:04:51.669 --> 00:04:55.005 Those who are online, raise your hands. 00:04:59.498 --> 00:05:02.856 Metka Majer, POP TV. Regarding the 20 buildings, 00:05:02.977 --> 00:05:08.693 when exactly will the demolition begin? 00:05:08.966 --> 00:05:12.874 Decisions will be dispatched and issued. 00:05:13.543 --> 00:05:17.543 Talks about signing agreements are taking place. 00:05:17.664 --> 00:05:21.929 As said, property owners must decide 00:05:22.050 --> 00:05:25.857 whether they want replacement construction 00:05:25.978 --> 00:05:33.274 or to take the money and build a property elsewhere themselves. 00:05:33.395 --> 00:05:40.193 We are in the phase of coordinating agreements. 00:05:44.021 --> 00:05:47.394 Rok Šuligoj, RTV. Did you discuss at the meeting 00:05:47.515 --> 00:05:49.523 or rather do you have a plan 00:05:49.644 --> 00:05:52.933 on how to amend the Constitutional Court Act? 00:05:53.371 --> 00:05:59.038 That was not on the agenda today, nor at the coalition coordinations. 00:06:01.309 --> 00:06:05.019 I am sure we will hear more about the pension reform, 00:06:05.140 --> 00:06:07.996 but it has been said that starting points 00:06:08.117 --> 00:06:11.746 for a tax reform will also be prepared, is that so? 00:06:12.660 --> 00:06:17.941 As I said, the important thing is that the coalition 00:06:18.062 --> 00:06:21.396 has agreed on a protocol for coordinating 00:06:21.517 --> 00:06:25.406 the important material to be entered into procedure 00:06:25.578 --> 00:06:28.765 at the Economic and Social Council. 00:06:29.085 --> 00:06:32.382 The Coalition first adopts the starting points, 00:06:32.503 --> 00:06:35.944 forwards them to the Economic and Social Council, 00:06:36.065 --> 00:06:39.937 which is a smaller or a larger group, 00:06:40.058 --> 00:06:43.390 and then they enter procedure. 00:06:43.511 --> 00:06:45.725 The same process we used today 00:06:45.846 --> 00:06:49.443 to adopt the starting points for the pension reform 00:06:49.564 --> 00:06:53.497 will be used to implement changes in the field of taxes. 00:06:55.233 --> 00:07:00.025 There are no more questions. Thank you Deputy PM. 00:07:00.352 --> 00:07:05.204 Thank you. -Now I give the floor to Minister Luka Mesec. 00:07:05.413 --> 00:07:07.013 Go ahead. 00:07:10.008 --> 00:07:13.600 Good afternoon. Today I will present the progress 00:07:13.721 --> 00:07:16.933 made in the area of pension reform, 00:07:17.054 --> 00:07:20.786 because today at the Government we presented the baselines 00:07:20.907 --> 00:07:22.777 for the pension reform. 00:07:22.898 --> 00:07:26.580 We approved the basis for the start of the coordination process 00:07:26.701 --> 00:07:31.807 with the social partners, which will be led in the first phase 00:07:31.928 --> 00:07:36.290 by the State Secretary from the Ministry of Labour, Igor Feketija. 00:07:36.411 --> 00:07:39.505 This will take place next month, 00:07:39.626 --> 00:07:42.713 we will discuss these things with the social partners, 00:07:42.834 --> 00:07:45.129 with the employers and the trade unions. 00:07:45.250 --> 00:07:47.805 Then we will start the formal negotiations, 00:07:47.926 --> 00:07:50.511 where I will take the baton. 00:07:51.951 --> 00:07:54.674 The pension reform has three objectives. 00:07:54.795 --> 00:07:59.303 Sustainability, the dignity of pensions, 00:07:59.424 --> 00:08:01.453 and the transparency of the system. 00:08:01.574 --> 00:08:05.805 Sustainability means the scenario for the pension reform 00:08:05.926 --> 00:08:11.099 is set up so that the system will be able to fiscally withstand 00:08:11.220 --> 00:08:13.697 the next decades of all kinds of crises, 00:08:13.818 --> 00:08:17.172 and that each one of us can rely on it a 100%. 00:08:17.293 --> 00:08:18.901 We will have pensions, 00:08:19.022 --> 00:08:23.093 that is the basic point of this pension reform. 00:08:23.604 --> 00:08:27.594 The pension reform is set up in such a way 00:08:27.715 --> 00:08:31.504 that no one who will meet the conditions for retirement 00:08:31.625 --> 00:08:33.739 will be at risk of poverty. 00:08:33.860 --> 00:08:41.294 This is an important contribution to the pension story from our side. 00:08:41.552 --> 00:08:47.696 The previous reforms were, in our estimation, 00:08:47.817 --> 00:08:50.510 carried out too roughly, 00:08:50.631 --> 00:08:53.585 too many things happened the following year. 00:08:53.706 --> 00:08:58.950 Our reform will spread the measures 00:08:59.071 --> 00:09:02.600 over the next decade up to 2035, 00:09:02.721 --> 00:09:04.398 when the reform ends. 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:09.738 Nothing drastic will change next year or in 2026. 00:09:09.859 --> 00:09:12.692 The changes will be gradual, 00:09:12.813 --> 00:09:18.006 and we will follow the simultaneity of the different measures. 00:09:18.127 --> 00:09:20.809 Some measures are for sustainability, 00:09:20.930 --> 00:09:23.150 other measures are for the dignity of pensions, 00:09:23.271 --> 00:09:25.340 these measures will happen simultaneously, 00:09:25.461 --> 00:09:29.380 and the point of all this is to have a robust system, 00:09:29.501 --> 00:09:32.184 not like the current one, 00:09:32.861 --> 00:09:39.361 which has been amended twenty times since it was adopted in 2013. 00:09:39.482 --> 00:09:43.779 That says a lot about the current system, 00:09:43.900 --> 00:09:47.813 how many times it has been amended or attempted to be amended 00:09:47.934 --> 00:09:50.226 by governments or by parliamentary groups, 00:09:50.347 --> 00:09:53.542 how many times it has been politically interfered with. 00:09:53.663 --> 00:09:56.001 With this reform we're now preparing, 00:09:56.122 --> 00:10:02.543 we're envisaging a scenario for the next decade up to 2035, 00:10:02.664 --> 00:10:05.697 and we are setting up a robust system 00:10:05.818 --> 00:10:10.795 that will not be constantly politically interfered with. 00:10:13.301 --> 00:10:16.435 Perhaps one more thing worth saying. 00:10:17.663 --> 00:10:22.578 In ten years' time, in 2035, we will be proposing 00:10:22.699 --> 00:10:25.588 to the social partners that a commitment be made today 00:10:25.709 --> 00:10:28.767 to look at the system that we have set up, 00:10:28.888 --> 00:10:31.888 to ensure that all these objectives are sufficiently met, 00:10:32.009 --> 00:10:35.380 sustainability, the dignity of pensions, 00:10:35.501 --> 00:10:37.297 and the transparency of the system, 00:10:37.418 --> 00:10:40.138 and to then discuss again 00:10:40.259 --> 00:10:43.026 any additional measures that may be necessary. 00:10:43.147 --> 00:10:46.711 But the reform that we have presented 00:10:46.832 --> 00:10:52.003 is intended to make the system sustainable in the long term. 00:10:52.124 --> 00:10:55.876 I explained the coordination process at the beginning. 00:10:55.997 --> 00:11:00.118 In the first phase, we will coordinate with the social partners. 00:11:00.239 --> 00:11:04.184 Today we have confirmed the basis for this. 00:11:05.508 --> 00:11:11.185 The social dialogue will take place in the second half of this year, 00:11:11.306 --> 00:11:14.129 and at the beginning of next year, 00:11:14.250 --> 00:11:16.939 the reform will be in parliamentary procedure, 00:11:17.060 --> 00:11:19.125 and will then be finalised. 00:11:19.246 --> 00:11:23.588 At the same time as the social partners agree on the measures, 00:11:23.709 --> 00:11:25.309 we will let the public know 00:11:25.430 --> 00:11:28.821 about the progress and the contents of these measures. 00:11:28.942 --> 00:11:33.584 I won't comment on the measures yet, but I will say one essential thing. 00:11:33.705 --> 00:11:37.476 The scenario of the pension reform, 00:11:37.597 --> 00:11:40.851 and this is the commitment of the entire coalition, 00:11:40.972 --> 00:11:45.092 is that 40 years of work is enough. 00:11:45.216 --> 00:11:49.701 I can say today a 100% that this will be the case 00:11:49.822 --> 00:11:51.639 when the reform is finished. 00:11:51.760 --> 00:11:54.897 Thank you very much. Rok Šuligoj, go ahead. 00:11:55.018 --> 00:11:59.206 Hello. I would like to continue where you left off. 00:11:59.327 --> 00:12:03.710 How to ensure sustainability and high pensions 00:12:03.831 --> 00:12:08.112 while not changing the years of service? Thank you. 00:12:08.692 --> 00:12:14.115 As I said, I will not comment on the content of the pension reform. 00:12:14.236 --> 00:12:18.888 You can probably imagine it yourself, 00:12:19.624 --> 00:12:22.503 but one thing is the insurance period, 00:12:22.624 --> 00:12:26.597 the 40 years you have to work in order to get a pension, 00:12:26.718 --> 00:12:29.320 and the other thing are the parameters 00:12:29.441 --> 00:12:32.303 of the age at which you can retire, 00:12:32.510 --> 00:12:36.793 and that is a matter of discussion with the social partners. 00:12:36.914 --> 00:12:38.905 Metka Majer, Pop TV. 00:12:39.976 --> 00:12:44.096 Given that you are setting everything up for ten years, 00:12:44.217 --> 00:12:50.504 couldn't this be seen as something temporary? 00:12:50.625 --> 00:12:53.271 So the next government or the one after that 00:12:53.392 --> 00:12:57.294 will then be expected to extend this period. 00:12:58.697 --> 00:13:02.411 As I said, in the previous reform, 00:13:02.532 --> 00:13:06.287 the social partners agreed in 2013 00:13:06.408 --> 00:13:09.899 to adopt a White Paper providing the necessary measures. 00:13:10.020 --> 00:13:13.092 The White Paper was written in 2017, 00:13:13.213 --> 00:13:16.548 our reform follows the commitments made in this White Paper. 00:13:16.669 --> 00:13:18.544 We are now following the same pattern. 00:13:18.665 --> 00:13:21.302 We are agreeing on the reforms of the system 00:13:21.423 --> 00:13:24.763 that will take place over the next decade. 00:13:24.884 --> 00:13:27.592 A commitment is made at the same time that 00:13:27.713 --> 00:13:31.767 a new White Paper will be adopted after this reform is completed, 00:13:31.888 --> 00:13:35.786 and in it additional measures will be envisaged. 00:13:35.907 --> 00:13:40.101 One of our three main objectives 00:13:40.222 --> 00:13:44.028 is to make this system predictable and robust. 00:13:44.393 --> 00:13:48.216 The problem with the current system has been 00:13:48.418 --> 00:13:55.952 that because too low a vesting percentage was defined in 2013, 00:13:56.073 --> 00:13:59.686 only 57.25%, 00:14:00.113 --> 00:14:03.815 it was necessary to intervene in the system all the time 00:14:03.936 --> 00:14:05.706 to ensure social justice. 00:14:05.827 --> 00:14:07.427 That is why governments 00:14:07.548 --> 00:14:10.783 made extraordinary adjustments to pensions, 00:14:10.904 --> 00:14:16.489 that is why there were constant talks 00:14:16.610 --> 00:14:19.711 about a higher vesting percentage and so on. 00:14:19.832 --> 00:14:23.001 This is one of the things that our reform is correcting, 00:14:23.122 --> 00:14:26.585 but I will talk about this after we have completed at least 00:14:26.706 --> 00:14:30.302 the first part of the coordination with the social partners. 00:14:30.423 --> 00:14:32.078 But I can tell you 00:14:32.199 --> 00:14:35.979 this is one of the fundamental objectives of the reform. 00:14:36.100 --> 00:14:38.142 There have been some information 00:14:38.263 --> 00:14:40.906 about the basis for the calculation of pensions. 00:14:41.027 --> 00:14:43.027 Is this open to debate? 00:14:43.942 --> 00:14:48.801 I will not comment more than what I have told you so far. 00:14:48.922 --> 00:14:55.099 This is one of the commitments we have made to Brussels. 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:59.795 Is this timeline in line with Brussels' expectations? 00:14:59.995 --> 00:15:07.865 Yes, we will meet the Recovery and Resilience Plan deadlines. 00:15:07.986 --> 00:15:13.692 Probably with a slight delay. 00:15:13.992 --> 00:15:17.705 But the estimated timeline 00:15:17.826 --> 00:15:21.954 won't jeopardise the absorption of funds in any way. 00:15:22.075 --> 00:15:24.106 Any questions online? 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:29.483 No? This concludes today's press conference. 00:15:29.604 --> 00:15:33.859 Thank you very much and have a good day. -Thank you.