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Hello. During its 86th meeting,
which took place today

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and was the first scheduled meeting
of the year, the government

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approved Slovenia's participation
in the advisory decision

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of the International Court
of Justice in the Hague

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about Israel's policies in the
occupied Palestinian territories.

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Foreign Minister Tanja Fajon
will tell us more.

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The government also drafted a bill
for the introduction of a EU decree

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on a single digital market.

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The proposed bill will be introduced

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by Digital Transformation Minister
Emilija Stojmenova Duh.

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You have the floor, Minister.

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Hello and welcome
to members of the media.

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I'd like to take this opportunity
to wish you a Happy New Year.

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May it be successful and peaceful.
On the recommendation

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of the Foreign Ministry,
the government approved

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Slovenia's participation in the case
at the International Court

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of Justice on the Israel's allegedly
problematic actions in Gaza

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and the West Bank, including
East Jerusalem.

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The procedure was initiated
by the UN General Assembly

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based on a resolution
from December 2022.

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Slovenia voted in favor
of the resolution at the time.

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The General Assembly asked
the International Court of Justice

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for an advisory opinion regarding
the consequences

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of Israel's actions
on the human rights situation

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in the occupied Palestinian
territories and Israel's alleged

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violation of the Palestinians' right
to self-determination.

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Israel's alleged actions
cover everything

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from long-term occupation,
settlements, and annexations

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of Palestinian territory by Israel
since 1967

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to Israel's actions intended
to change the demographics,

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character, and status of Jerusalem,
as well as legislation and measures

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that discriminate
against the Palestinians.

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This is an exceptionally
wide spectrum of alleged violations

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that have been going on
in the region for years

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and whose horrifying consequences
are evident today.

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In light of the recent events
in Gaza and the West Bank,

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Slovenia decided, as one
of only a few EU countries,

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decided to actively take part
in this case at the International

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Court of Justice and present
its opinions.

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The court will rule on Israel's
alleged violations

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primarily on the basis
of international humanitarian law

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and international human rights law,
areas to which Slovenia

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is paying particular attention
as part of its foreign policy

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and alerting the world to its
violations,

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including in the context
of the current conditions in Gaza.

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Slovenia's position on the conflict
in the Middle East is clear.

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I have repeated it
publicly many times

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in various discussions at both
the UN and the EU,

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and I would like to state it again.

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I harshly condemn both
the aggression of Hamas in Israel

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and the aggression of Israel
in Gaza.

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Civilians shouldn't
be the targets.

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I draw attention to serious
violations of international

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humanitarian law
and human rights law in Gaza.

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We can't brand all Palestinians
as terrorists.

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I'd like to draw attention
to violations of humanitarian

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and human rights law.

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Since October 7, some 23,000
Palestinians have been killed.

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Of these, 70% have been
women and children.

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Almost two million people have been
displaced within Gaza.

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This is 85%
of the entire population.

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Therefore, I strongly condemn
any intention

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to resettle the Palestinian
population outside Gaza

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or the West Bank and reduce the size
of Palestinian territory.

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Gaza and the West Bank
belong to the Palestinians.

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I call for the adoption
of additional sanctions

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against both Hamas and violent
Israeli settlers on the West Bank.

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I have also repeatedly urged
the declaration of a permanent

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ceasefire in Gaza and unrestricted
access to humanitarian aid.

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The scenes we're seeing today,
showing a horrible winter

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and destroyed infrastructure,
proved what I have long been saying,

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namely that the world has failed
its test of humanity.

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I therefore urge the imminent
start of a peace process

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and a two-state solution,
which naturally means

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the international recognition
of a Palestinian state.

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Our goal is the peaceful coexistence
of Israelis and Palestinians

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side by side.

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The beginning of oral arguments,
the subject of our decision,

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has been scheduled by the court
for February 19.

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Slovenia will get its turn
on February 13.

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Slovenia will be represented at
the International Court of Justice

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under the auspices of the Ministry
for Foreign and European affairs.

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The process of issuing
an advisory opinion

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provides an opportunity
for renewed trust in and credibility

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of international institutions
regarding the situation in Gaza.

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Slovenia believes that countries,
as part of the international

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community, must help
the International Court of Justice

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and ensure that Israel and
the other sides of the conflict

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obey their international
obligations.

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The opinion issued by this court
can serve as an instrument

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to establish a wider
political consensus

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regarding this issue.

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As for the legal case that is being
discussed today

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after being filed by South Africa at
the International Court of Justice,

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I'd like to point out that
this process has not yet reached

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a phase where we could take
part as an intervenor.

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In this phase, which involves
decisions about temporary measures

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and before the court even
determines if it's competent

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to decide on this matter,
Slovenia can't join the case.

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This will only be possible
after the court decides

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whether it can consider the case.

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Slovenia will follow the case.
The proceedings are interesting

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and important. Slovenia supports
measures taken regarding

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violations of the Genocide
Convention

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in both Ukraine and Palestine.

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As a proponent of international law,
Slovenia wholeheartedly supports

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the work of the International Court
if Justice and hopes

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that it will make its decision
as soon as possible.

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I'd like to emphasize
that only the court

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can decide if certain actions
amount to genocide or not.

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No state, organization,
or political representative

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has the mandate to do that
in place of the court.

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Slovenia supports
international courts

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and their judgments regarding wars
around the world.

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Specifically, we support
the International Criminal Court's

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investigation in Palestine.
We also support the International

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Court of Justice in all cases
regarding Palestine.

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Finally, allow me to address
yesterday's canceled screening

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organized by the Israeli Embassy
at Mini Teater

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and the threats received
by Mini Teater.

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Intolerance has no place
in our society,

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so I condemn all intolerant
and hateful acts.

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To resolve disagreements
or find common ground,

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we always need a conversation.

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Our ministry doesn't see
this event as interference

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in our internal affairs,
but I expect the Israeli Embassy

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to obey Slovenian laws,
the laws of diplomacy,

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and established practices when
organizing the event.

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If there was any activity
that may have raised concern

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or may do so in the future, we'll
react appropriately. Thank you.

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Thank you Minister. Questions
for the press. Step up to the mic

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and introduce yourselves.
-Hello. Anže Božič, POP TV.

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I'm curious about the last two
things you mentioned.

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Regarding the South African case
at the International Court,

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of Justice, as I understand it,
there are two different cases.

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You said that it's to early
for countries to join

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the South African initiative,
but that it seems interesting.

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I'm curious if Slovenia has
a favorable attitude to that case.

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And will the Israeli Ambassador
be called for consultations?

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That's a powerful diplomatic tool.
If I understand you correctly,

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the answer is no.

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Regarding your first question,
the International Court of Justice

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is holding a hearing today
on South Africa's initiative.

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The country can present
its arguments regarding

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accusations against Israel
relating to the war, genocide,

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and the intentional killing
of the Palestinian people.

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Tomorrow, Israel will get
a chance to present its position,

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which refutes the allegations.
The court will then decide

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if it's even competent to rule
on this matter.

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There are various possible
paths forward.

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In any case, when Slovenia is
notified by the court's secretariat

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that the court will rule
on this case,

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we'll use legal arguments
to make our decision.

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We do have a favorable attitude
to this case based on our

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consistent support for international
courts in their investigation

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of war crimes.

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We'll decide in the next phase,

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but we do expect the court
to call on Israel early on

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to end its military campaign,
but any ruling on genocide

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would require a case
that could last several years.

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Based on the legal arguments
we'll have when the court

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makes its ruling
in the days ahead,

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we'll decide whether Slovenia
takes part or not.

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That decision is also
for the government to make.

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As for your second question,
I've consulted my colleagues

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at the Foreign Ministry regarding
the screening of the film.

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Slovenia isn't the only country
involved. Israel is screening

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the film everywhere because it wants
to draw attention to the atrocities

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carried out by Hamas terrorists
on October 7.

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These are diplomatic activities
that the embassy can carry out.

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Of course,
I expect all activities

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to be in line with diplomatic
practices and Slovenian legislation.

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Yesterday's situation
may also attest to the fact

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that the embassy could perhaps
organise such events differently

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or perhaps
at a more appropriate time,

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as it caused
significant unease and protests

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at a time when every day
there is an enormous amount

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of civilian victims
in Gaza and the West Bank.

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I do not see this

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as interfering with
Slovenia's democratic processes,

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they are diplomatic activities
that any embassy can conduct.

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If it turns out that inappropriate
practices were involved,

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we will respond. We are in regular
contact with the Ambassador,

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but, unless it turns out
that there was some wrongdoing,

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I see no reason
to call him to account.

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Thank you. Petra Marc from RTV
has a question online.

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Hello,
can you hear me?

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Can you hear me?
-Yes, we can hear you.

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Madame Minister,
so you will not

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call the Israeli ambassador
to account,

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but,
if I understand correctly,

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the Coalition
does not see eye to eye

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regarding the announcement
of the broadcast of the recordings?

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The Left
declared it as propaganda,

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while you see it
as legal diplomatic activities

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that are conducted
by each country.

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Does the event correspond
to the work of a foreign embassy?

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Do other countries
usually hold such events?

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Do you, in this case,
share the opinion

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of the Prime Minister's
colleague Mr. Vojko Volk?

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We are very much
of one mind in the Coalition.

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This morning we talked about
the announced broadcast

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and the embassy's activities.

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We agreed that everything
that has been going on so far

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does not constitute
any special reasons

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to call the ambassador
to account.

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But if there were any improper
practices in organising the event,

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and diplomacy or Slovenian
legislation were violated,

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we will respond adequately.

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Embassies have diplomatic activities
and events that they can organise.

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Mini Teater also hosts
such events sometimes

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per the embassies
wishes or offers,

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so there was nothing problematic
about this event in itself,

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but it is problematic that
Mini Teater received threats

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because of
organising the event.

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As I said, there is no place in
our society for such intolerance.

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Allow me to repeat myself,

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the organisation of such events
needs to be well thought out,

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but, as I found
from several sources,

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the Israeli embassy
is not the only one

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that can collect
or wishes to get certain data,

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which they demanded
from the visitors of the event.

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Some other embassies
also do this.

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As long as an individual provides
their data consensually,

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it is not controversial,
but again, if there were

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any improper practices,
we will respond adequately.

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For now
they do not seem to be.

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Kaja Kobetič, Kanal A.
I have a question

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regarding the constitutional order
on judges' salaries.

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Your party stated
that the Coalition

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must find
political will for a solution

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and that you expect a conversation.
Has this conversation happened yet?

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Do you expect the
government's position to change

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and judges salaries
to be considered separately?

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And regarding your minister's
purchase of the new courthouse,

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6 million euros more were paid
than the seller bought it for

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and the Ministry
did not order its own appraisal.

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Your comment?
Thank you.

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I am not the right one to ask
about the judges' salaries.

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The Ministry of Public
Administration is in charge of it.

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Everything has been said.

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We will deal with it
as a part of the payment reform.

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And about the purchase
of the building.

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The Minister
explained they have

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all the necessary
documentation.

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Everything was explained and I am
not the person for these questions.

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Studies have been made.

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They have all the documents

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and if nothing else went wrong,
we do not need to talk about it.

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Vitomir Petrović from Planet
has a question as well.

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He cannot raise his hand,
so I am giving him the opportunity.

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Do you have
a question or not?

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No. Yes or no?

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Can we turn it on?

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Can you hear me? -Yes.
-Hello. Madam Minister,

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as a former journalist,
you have always been worried

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about what was going on
at the public TV.

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How do you see
the current state there?

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Can you tell me, please?

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I have always been worried if they
could not work professionally

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and without
political interference.

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As a politician,
I will surely not interfere

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in their work.

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I want for them to have
all the freedom

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to make decisions.
This is necessary

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for them to provide
the information professionally

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and they have
our support in this.

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In the first place, this means we
should not interfere in their work.

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Thank you.
This was the last question.

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Thank you for today.
-Goodbye.

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Goodbye. Now, the Minister
of Digital Transformation

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Emilija Stojmenova Duh will present
the proposal for the Act

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to implement the EU Regulation on a
Single Market for Digital Services.

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Go ahead.
-Thank you. Hello.

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We passed the proposal for the Act
to implement the Regulation

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on a Single Market
for Digital Services

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which is key
to establishing a safe,

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predictable and trustworthy
Internet environment.

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The Act sets the rules
for intermediary services providers,

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such as Internet
service providers.

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In Slovenia, these are Telekom,
T-2, A1, Telemach and so on.

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It also sets the rules
for platforms like Facebook, X,

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Instagram and so on,

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and Internet markets
such as Bolha.

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I want to stress the Act
does not apply to Internet media.

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These will continue
to be regulated with the Media Act.

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The Act states
that The Agency

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for Communication Networks
and Services

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will be responsible to implement
the Act. They will be

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the coordinator
of digital services.

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The Agency will oversee
whether the providers

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are implementing the Act
and they will give the status

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of trustworthy informants that will
be warning about illegal practices.

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The Act will make
it possible to remove

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illegal content.
I want to stress the Act defines

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legal jurisdiction
to remove the illegal content.

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I would like to repeat that this
doesn't apply to online media,

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because there is another law
for them, namely media law.

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With the draft law Slovenia
is responding to the need

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to adjust the online environment,

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whereby the safety and trust
in digital services shall reinforce.

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When the law
was being prepared,

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there were
two public consultations last year,

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where we listened to
different interest groups.

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In a public sitting
between August and September

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we saw the need for this law

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and that we have to
determine a jurisdiction

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with removing
the illegal content from the web.

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All EU Member States
have to adopt such a legislation

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and ensure a safe and trustworthy
online environment in Europe.

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Thank you, Minister.
Are there any questions?

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On another topic?
This one is also important.

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No. Then it will be
on another topic, Minister.

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Hello. Kobetič, Kanal A.

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One comment, please. KPK took
a closer look at your purchase

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of 13,000 laptops.
How do you comment this?

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I am looking forward
to this inspection,

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because it will show that procedures
were implemented correctly

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and legitimately. With the purchase
we complied with legal obligations,

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established in the amendment
of the Digital Inclusion Act.

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Are there any questions on the web?
Vitomir Petrovič from Planet TV.

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When can we expect that users
will get these 13,000 computers?

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Now they sit in a warehouse, which
is probably not a good solution

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for a digital literacy.

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We also wish that target groups
would get them as soon as possible.

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We are responsible for ensuring the
funds and purchasing the computers.

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The allocation is a responsibility
of the Public Scholarship Fund,

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which is setting the procedures
to distribute the computers.

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Marjeta Bogataj, Demokracija.
I have a follow-up question.

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Can you tell us,
where are these computers stored?

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Has anybody
received them yet?

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And what was the reason
to buy these 130,000 computers?

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Thank you. First,
I would like to correct you,

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there aren't 130,000,
but 13,000 computers.

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Ten times less.
What was our reason?

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The Digital Inclusion Act, which was
adopted by the Slovenian government

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and the National Assembly.
There, it is specified

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that on January 1st 2024
we shall set a fund

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for a free rental
of computer equipment

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and the Ministry
of Digital Transformation

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should provide the computers.
This is our legal obligation.

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These computers
are in a warehouse.

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I can't give you an address.
You probably know, why not.

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We have to
protect the equipment.

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With the address
the location shall be public

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and something illegal can happen.

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And another one?
-Did you give them to anybody?

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The computers are distributed
only in accordance with the law.

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We gave 39 computers to communities
that demonstrated the need.

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At the time of the floods
we adopted the Intervention law,

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according to which computers shall
be given to those, who need them.

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Municipalities which demonstrated
the interest received them

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and they use them already.
-39? -Exactly.

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Thank you, Minister.
There are no more questions.

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Thank you for your presence.
Have a nice day. Goodbye.

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Likewise. Goodbye.