WEBVTT 00:00:01.273 --> 00:00:04.532 Hello. Welcome at the Environment Agency. 00:00:04.792 --> 00:00:08.299 Hello to everyone following us online as well. 00:00:10.715 --> 00:00:17.132 Our alerts about extreme weather conditions and floods 00:00:17.525 --> 00:00:24.199 are helpful when we adapt to the changing climate. 00:00:24.944 --> 00:00:28.432 If you follow the alerts and protect yourselves, 00:00:28.802 --> 00:00:33.732 your property and life will be safer. 00:00:34.312 --> 00:00:39.532 Branko Gregorčič and Janez Polajnar will present the alert. 00:00:39.800 --> 00:00:43.601 For other areas, the director of the Water Agency Neža Kodre, 00:00:43.822 --> 00:00:50.071 the Civil Protection commander Srečko Šestan and the director 00:00:50.191 --> 00:00:53.532 of the Geological Survey Miloš Bavec will tell you more. 00:00:53.807 --> 00:00:55.407 Brane, go ahead. 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.265 Thank you. Welcome, everyone. 00:01:01.868 --> 00:01:05.205 This autumn, there are a lot of cyclones 00:01:05.325 --> 00:01:09.337 above the northern Atlantic. 00:01:09.457 --> 00:01:14.673 Today, we are seeing one of the deepest in the past decades. 00:01:15.129 --> 00:01:20.089 It has reached the South of Great Britain 00:01:20.209 --> 00:01:22.701 in is affecting the weather in France. 00:01:22.821 --> 00:01:25.891 The cold front is fast approaching the Alps 00:01:26.011 --> 00:01:29.956 and will pass Slovenia during the night. 00:01:30.076 --> 00:01:36.237 Before the front, we expect humid and warm air 00:01:36.357 --> 00:01:38.799 from the South or the Southwest 00:01:39.106 --> 00:01:44.464 which will bring heavy rain in the evening, 00:01:44.584 --> 00:01:47.932 especially in the western mountains. 00:01:48.052 --> 00:01:50.277 At sea, we expect heavy southern winds 00:01:50.398 --> 00:01:53.814 with gusts up to 70-100 km/h. 00:01:53.934 --> 00:01:59.541 It will blow in the evening and the first half of the night 00:01:59.661 --> 00:02:03.151 and it will bring humid sea air 00:02:03.271 --> 00:02:06.799 to the Julian Alps. 00:02:07.184 --> 00:02:11.945 There, we expect heavy rain already before the front, 00:02:12.205 --> 00:02:15.232 more than 100 mm in six hours. 00:02:15.406 --> 00:02:18.900 When the front will pass Slovenia, 00:02:19.020 --> 00:02:25.432 we expect heavy rain and wind throughout the country. 00:02:25.708 --> 00:02:30.232 The most rain will fall in the Soča region, 00:02:31.007 --> 00:02:35.361 Bohinj and Upper Sava Valley. In the mountains, the winds will be strong 00:02:35.481 --> 00:02:39.384 and there will be heavy rain in places 00:02:39.504 --> 00:02:43.173 north of the first barrier as well. 00:02:43.293 --> 00:02:50.172 Heavy rain will also come to the Austrian Carinthia 00:02:50.292 --> 00:02:55.306 and in Friuli Venezia Giulia, 00:02:55.426 --> 00:02:58.999 heavy rain can be expected. 00:02:59.408 --> 00:03:03.832 In 24 hours, 120-240 mm of rain will fall 00:03:03.952 --> 00:03:08.785 in the northwestern Slovenia, 00:03:08.905 --> 00:03:14.932 which is why we issued the red alert. 00:03:15.973 --> 00:03:22.476 Elsewhere, there will be less rain, 60-120 mm in the mountainous regions 00:03:22.596 --> 00:03:27.507 and elsewhere, even less. We will have the most turbulent weather 00:03:27.627 --> 00:03:32.599 during night, from tonight to tomorrow morning. 00:03:32.843 --> 00:03:37.565 Then, the situation will get better. There will still be rain 00:03:37.685 --> 00:03:43.403 and it will also get colder. The snow can fall 00:03:43.523 --> 00:03:48.162 1000-1300 m high, 00:03:48.282 --> 00:03:52.799 but it will not cause any trouble. 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:56.799 The night will be the most critical. 00:03:57.605 --> 00:04:00.992 On Sunday or during the night between Saturday and Sunday, 00:04:01.112 --> 00:04:06.147 another front will come. Today, it seems 00:04:06.267 --> 00:04:09.796 it will be less powerful, 00:04:09.916 --> 00:04:14.699 but this can change, of course. We will know more tomorrow. 00:04:18.206 --> 00:04:24.732 Thank you, Brane. Janez, present the hydrological situation. 00:04:26.831 --> 00:04:31.278 Hello. During the night and tomorrow, 00:04:31.398 --> 00:04:36.192 we will have autumn floods. We are in the middle of autumn 00:04:36.312 --> 00:04:39.926 and the vegetation does not protect the soil anymore 00:04:40.046 --> 00:04:46.032 as much as in August when it was protected to an extent. 00:04:46.549 --> 00:04:49.841 The water will flow away fast. 00:04:49.961 --> 00:04:55.036 The rivers in the Northwest and elsewhere 00:04:55.156 --> 00:04:59.879 will rise fast. They will reach high flow volumes 00:04:59.999 --> 00:05:03.359 and flood in some places. 00:05:03.479 --> 00:05:10.032 During the night, we expect mostly torrent water. 00:05:10.394 --> 00:05:15.932 The torrents in the Soča region, 00:05:16.052 --> 00:05:20.265 Idrija and Cerkno Hills, 00:05:20.385 --> 00:05:25.432 river basins of Idrijca and Bača, in the river Sora area, 00:05:25.848 --> 00:05:30.999 especially Selška Sora, and in the Upper Sava Valley 00:05:31.119 --> 00:05:35.159 will rise really fast. These torrents 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:41.532 will fill the rivers tomorrow. 00:05:41.784 --> 00:05:46.467 Sava, which absorbs a lot of the rain water, 00:05:46.587 --> 00:05:50.266 will rise tomorrow as well 00:05:50.386 --> 00:05:55.899 and already tonight. In Ljubljana, 00:05:56.020 --> 00:06:03.557 it can reach a flow rate of about 1500 or even 1600 cubic meters per second. 00:06:04.055 --> 00:06:09.622 This is a fairly large flow rate, although we've recorded such a rate 00:06:09.795 --> 00:06:12.922 on Christmas floods in the year 2009 00:06:13.348 --> 00:06:16.995 and in year 2010 on autumn flooding. 00:06:17.148 --> 00:06:23.055 But outflow conditions have changed a little 00:06:23.228 --> 00:06:27.628 and tomorrow morning we should be additionally careful 00:06:27.768 --> 00:06:30.482 on the wider middle area of river Sava as well. 00:06:30.902 --> 00:06:32.762 We expect 00:06:32.975 --> 00:06:37.888 these torrential floods to be most acute on the aforesaid areas. 00:06:38.035 --> 00:06:40.962 But they are possible elsewhere too. 00:06:41.095 --> 00:06:43.948 For example in Vipava valley, by the river Kolpa, 00:06:44.135 --> 00:06:49.842 and on the coast there could come to torrential overflows 00:06:50.062 --> 00:06:54.869 and stagnation of storm water. Especially now, 00:06:55.022 --> 00:07:01.842 when leaves are falling and causing additional troubles 00:07:01.989 --> 00:07:05.709 at water drainage in urban areas. 00:07:06.035 --> 00:07:10.589 The second unfortunate situation 00:07:10.675 --> 00:07:12.355 shall be on river Drava. 00:07:13.282 --> 00:07:17.335 Probably it shall have a bigger flow rate 00:07:17.475 --> 00:07:21.302 of 1600 cubic meters per second tomorrow morning. 00:07:21.455 --> 00:07:23.615 On the inlet in the country. 00:07:23.869 --> 00:07:30.069 During the day river Drava will be joined from other inflows. 00:07:30.162 --> 00:07:34.469 We expect the flooding of Drava through the whole day. 00:07:34.602 --> 00:07:37.629 Especially in the downstream, could be in a wider scope. 00:07:37.862 --> 00:07:43.082 We expect the flow rate of 1800 cubic meters per second, maybe more. 00:07:43.215 --> 00:07:47.375 Tomorrow afternoon and on Friday night. 00:07:48.309 --> 00:07:52.842 At least this afternoon there is time 00:07:53.042 --> 00:07:56.194 to use it for self-protection 00:07:56.322 --> 00:08:01.742 and self-protection measures. We should take valuable items 00:08:01.909 --> 00:08:06.782 on the higher grounds. We should move especially cars on safety. 00:08:06.935 --> 00:08:11.895 We should also clean drains by the houses 00:08:12.068 --> 00:08:14.948 and remove the fallen leaves. 00:08:15.168 --> 00:08:19.968 I warn you that the water shall rise very quickly. 00:08:20.228 --> 00:08:24.988 Then we save our lives and not belongings. 00:08:25.188 --> 00:08:30.388 In the meantime we should observe all civil protection's instructions. 00:08:31.002 --> 00:08:32.602 Thank you. 00:08:35.315 --> 00:08:36.928 Thank you, Janez. 00:08:37.695 --> 00:08:41.972 For circumstances that Water Agency is monitoring. 00:08:46.702 --> 00:08:49.628 Hello from me too. 00:08:51.048 --> 00:08:55.022 As far as measures on watercourses are concerned, 00:08:55.455 --> 00:09:02.795 we are still implementing emergency measures in the whole of Slovenia. 00:09:04.008 --> 00:09:09.768 There are 212 teams in the field 00:09:10.115 --> 00:09:15.202 that are taking care for the flow of watercourses. 00:09:15.428 --> 00:09:22.755 They are repairing damage on the dams and similar things. 00:09:24.128 --> 00:09:29.048 Considering the weather forecast 00:09:29.388 --> 00:09:32.622 they should remove the machinery 00:09:33.082 --> 00:09:37.595 in the afternoon on the watercourses in the endangered areas. 00:09:37.868 --> 00:09:41.068 They shall start implementing emergency measures 00:09:41.295 --> 00:09:43.915 to prevent the damage 00:09:45.142 --> 00:09:49.335 or to avert the risks, 00:09:49.608 --> 00:09:52.462 connected to the floods. 00:09:53.208 --> 00:09:59.055 It shall start with on-call duties, monitoring the water levels. 00:09:59.288 --> 00:10:05.715 When necessary the teams should intervene. 00:10:06.262 --> 00:10:13.035 They shall remove the material that would block the river flow. 00:10:13.402 --> 00:10:17.455 They shall make temporary dams and bursts. 00:10:17.822 --> 00:10:22.375 All teams are ready 00:10:22.488 --> 00:10:26.895 and they will work during the night and in the following days. 00:10:28.088 --> 00:10:30.575 As far as warnings are concerned 00:10:30.708 --> 00:10:38.075 I would like to add a warning. We ask all citizens, 00:10:38.282 --> 00:10:44.435 to remove from coastal areas all the materials 00:10:44.595 --> 00:10:47.835 that water could take downstream. 00:10:48.062 --> 00:10:52.602 Bales of hay, firewood or something similar 00:10:52.842 --> 00:10:59.242 that could block areas under bridges. 00:10:59.535 --> 00:11:02.248 In that way we can avoid 00:11:02.528 --> 00:11:07.962 an even bigger damage. 00:11:08.755 --> 00:11:10.462 Thank you. 00:11:11.888 --> 00:11:15.682 Thank you. Neža Kodre, a director of Water Agency. 00:11:15.995 --> 00:11:20.115 I invite a civil protection commander Srečko Šestan. 00:11:24.008 --> 00:11:26.008 Hello, everybody. 00:11:26.382 --> 00:11:31.155 My predecessors have issued quite a few warnings. 00:11:32.568 --> 00:11:38.255 I have to say that the warnings that we issue, including me, 00:11:38.588 --> 00:11:41.222 are not meant as a joke. 00:11:41.502 --> 00:11:46.295 In that way we are trying to save a life or reduce damage. 00:11:46.768 --> 00:11:51.122 We get ridiculed on social networks, 00:11:51.375 --> 00:11:53.902 but I don't mind that, 00:11:54.155 --> 00:11:57.288 if we save one life and reduce the damage. 00:11:58.617 --> 00:12:04.389 Mr Polajnar mentioned, issued a warning through the media, 00:12:04.510 --> 00:12:07.508 I heard him on the radio when I was driving to Ljubljana, 00:12:07.629 --> 00:12:10.091 to clean the drains. 00:12:10.645 --> 00:12:13.047 Ljubljana is full of leaves, not only Ljubljana, 00:12:13.168 --> 00:12:15.796 all urban and non-urban areas. 00:12:16.263 --> 00:12:22.291 These shafts are the ones that cause additional flooding. 00:12:22.412 --> 00:12:25.896 I'm repeating the warning now. 00:12:26.225 --> 00:12:32.234 An order has already been prepared, which I will now go sign, 00:12:32.458 --> 00:12:36.578 for everyone to be on alert, 00:12:36.699 --> 00:12:42.113 except in Pomurje and Murska Sobota. 00:12:42.477 --> 00:12:45.311 All other areas will be on alert, 00:12:45.432 --> 00:12:49.889 the information centres, the regional centres and warehouses, 00:12:50.010 --> 00:12:53.284 and, of course, all those workers and commanders 00:12:53.405 --> 00:12:57.784 who need to conduct activities in these areas. 00:12:58.261 --> 00:13:04.393 As usually, also a certain number of Slovenian soldiers 00:13:04.514 --> 00:13:06.114 with the machinery, 00:13:06.235 --> 00:13:10.708 we already have some of this machinery in Baška grapa 00:13:10.950 --> 00:13:12.912 for this purpose 00:13:13.033 --> 00:13:17.043 and for the overnight accommodation of the fire brigades 00:13:17.164 --> 00:13:19.285 who have been stationed there for two days 00:13:19.406 --> 00:13:21.906 from the entire North Primorska region. 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:29.565 The Nova Gorica Red Cross is erecting an accommodation unit 00:13:29.825 --> 00:13:35.750 which will, if necessary, serve for the accommodation of evacuated people, 00:13:35.871 --> 00:13:38.322 if they have no other option. 00:13:38.443 --> 00:13:45.063 As Mr Polajnar said, we're trying to do as much as we can 00:13:45.331 --> 00:13:49.418 before the event. If it bypasses us, thank God, I'll be very happy. 00:13:49.539 --> 00:13:53.318 But if it doesn't, at least we will know that we did something 00:13:53.439 --> 00:13:59.711 despite, as I said before, various comments 00:13:59.832 --> 00:14:05.004 appearing on social media. Thank you very much. 00:14:07.142 --> 00:14:11.718 The Geological Survey of Slovenia Director Miloš Bavec, 00:14:11.842 --> 00:14:17.250 please provide a description of the geological circumstances. 00:14:21.929 --> 00:14:25.494 Hello. The conditions are really exceptional, 00:14:25.615 --> 00:14:30.897 in addition to exceptional precipitation that we expect tonight, 00:14:31.504 --> 00:14:36.072 especially in the area of the Julian Alps and their foothills, 00:14:36.193 --> 00:14:42.095 the ground is extremely wet all over Slovenia. 00:14:42.582 --> 00:14:49.376 Despite the fact that we are somewhat used to 00:14:49.497 --> 00:14:51.601 landslides and similar phenomena, 00:14:51.722 --> 00:14:55.287 today the situation is even more aggravated. 00:14:55.408 --> 00:14:59.082 In addition to the areas where the precipitation will be the worst, 00:14:59.203 --> 00:15:01.907 the strongest, we're also warning the areas 00:15:02.028 --> 00:15:04.990 that have been affected already, 00:15:05.111 --> 00:15:10.103 with an emphasis on the Kamnik-Savinja Alps, Karavanke 00:15:10.224 --> 00:15:12.439 and their wider outskirts, 00:15:12.560 --> 00:15:18.092 because individual landslides can easily reactivate. 00:15:19.956 --> 00:15:26.305 We remind you to clean the drains 00:15:26.426 --> 00:15:31.304 that are already established for the drainage of individual landslides. 00:15:31.425 --> 00:15:35.398 Especially in cases where the dimensions allow for this, 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:40.389 it is worth to cover the landslides and their broken edges with foils. 00:15:40.510 --> 00:15:46.418 Some of the gutters that will fill up 00:15:46.539 --> 00:15:52.411 drain into the landslides, which is extremely problematic. 00:15:52.532 --> 00:15:57.196 Do whatever you can to drain the water, 00:15:57.317 --> 00:16:02.703 even the smallest drains from the existing landslides. 00:16:08.104 --> 00:16:11.703 Thank you. According to the information we have so far, 00:16:11.824 --> 00:16:17.615 we expect to have another press conference tomorrow at the same time. 00:16:17.736 --> 00:16:20.984 You will get an invitation in the morning. 00:16:21.105 --> 00:16:26.644 Now we have time for additional clarifications, if they are needed. 00:16:26.995 --> 00:16:30.715 I have a question. -Go ahead. -For the Slovenian Water Agency. 00:16:30.836 --> 00:16:37.018 My coworker is in Sneberje where they're preparing for the worst. 00:16:37.139 --> 00:16:40.382 The residents are worried, 00:16:40.503 --> 00:16:43.787 because nothing has been done about the rampart. 00:16:43.908 --> 00:16:49.325 Did you get the appeal with more than 120 signatures? 00:16:49.446 --> 00:16:55.526 Given the high flow of Sava, will you do something? 00:16:55.647 --> 00:16:58.831 A question about Sneberje. Go ahead. 00:16:59.855 --> 00:17:03.284 Yes, as far as Sneberje is concerned, 00:17:03.405 --> 00:17:06.569 we are in constant contact with our colleagues 00:17:06.690 --> 00:17:09.858 from the Environment Agency. 00:17:09.979 --> 00:17:15.546 What you see here is also happening in the background. 00:17:16.501 --> 00:17:21.008 Our colleagues checked the flow, as Mr Polajnar mentioned. 00:17:21.129 --> 00:17:24.221 In the Sneberje area, we are expecting a flow 00:17:24.796 --> 00:17:32.618 no higher than it has been at least five times from the year 2000. 00:17:34.541 --> 00:17:39.702 We're speaking about a much lower flow, 00:17:39.823 --> 00:17:44.589 around 1400 m3. 00:17:45.089 --> 00:17:50.289 The start of August saw flow rates of more than 2000 cubic meters. 00:17:50.596 --> 00:17:58.721 This means that the events are lower by a third compared to 00:17:59.128 --> 00:18:00.728 the statistics. 00:18:01.300 --> 00:18:06.040 Which means that under this forecast, the water here would spill 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.200 out of urbanised areas, i.e. 00:18:08.320 --> 00:18:09.310 over the bank. 00:18:09.430 --> 00:18:14.990 But it doesn't floods the area. Nevertheless, both people from the Water 00:18:15.110 --> 00:18:20.770 Directorate of the Republic of Slovenia and colleagues from the 00:18:20.890 --> 00:18:26.230 mandatory public utility have been activated at the moment. 00:18:26.350 --> 00:18:32.540 They are on the ground and they are trying to implement some temporary 00:18:32.660 --> 00:18:38.950 measures to prevent, to rehabilitate the area, at least temporarily. 00:18:39.070 --> 00:18:45.780 But I have to say what I said at the previous press conference: there is 00:18:45.900 --> 00:18:52.640 no water infrastructure in this area of Sneberje, no dikes, that is to 00:18:52.760 --> 00:18:57.760 say, to prevent water from pouring into these areas. 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:01.110 This area still needs to be protected and it needs to be 00:19:01.230 --> 00:19:05.270 protected in a comprehensive way, so we are also in contact with the 00:19:05.390 --> 00:19:07.000 Municipality of Ljubljana. 00:19:07.120 --> 00:19:11.940 How to prepare projects that will, in the long term, comprehensively, 00:19:12.060 --> 00:19:14.560 adequately, I will say, protect the area. 00:19:33.670 --> 00:19:37.240 Can we make a comparison, in fact, how serious these warnings you 00:19:37.360 --> 00:19:41.170 are giving today are? You said that the waters will rise very quickly. 00:19:41.290 --> 00:19:46.520 We saw in August what was actually happening when the waters were rising 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:51.440 very rapidly, so we are interested to see how we can really put this 00:19:51.560 --> 00:19:56.440 into some kind of context, how serious these warnings are, and then 00:19:56.560 --> 00:20:01.430 perhaps Mr Šestan, have you called on local communities to take any 00:20:01.550 --> 00:20:06.700 specific preventive measures, if you can say anything more about that? 00:20:06.820 --> 00:20:09.160 And you mentioned the army. 00:20:09.280 --> 00:20:12.850 If you could tell us how many members of the armed forces might be 00:20:12.970 --> 00:20:14.620 on standby? 00:20:15.970 --> 00:20:17.010 Three questions. 00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:20.470 Comparing these warnings with the ones in August. 00:20:20.590 --> 00:20:26.750 A question for civil protection, how prepared municipalities are and how 00:20:26.870 --> 00:20:29.530 many troops are on the ground. 00:20:31.760 --> 00:20:36.630 If we try to compare today's weather situation with the one in August, then 00:20:36.750 --> 00:20:38.570 we have to bear in mind that 00:20:38.690 --> 00:20:44.380 the surface temperature of the Mediterranean Sea was then between 28 00:20:44.500 --> 00:20:50.120 and 29 degrees, now it's just over 20 degrees, so that's optimistic. 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:55.610 On the other hand, air currents over Slovenia today will be stronger than 00:20:55.730 --> 00:20:57.170 they were in August. 00:20:57.290 --> 00:21:01.700 The direction of the high winds will also be slightly different, so it is 00:21:01.820 --> 00:21:05.780 very difficult to compare the two events in a lump sum in advance. 00:21:05.900 --> 00:21:10.670 We have assessed that today's expected, intense, mainly evening and 00:21:10.790 --> 00:21:15.990 overnight rainfall is so threatening that we have issued the highest level 00:21:16.110 --> 00:21:17.960 of warning, mainly for the north-west. 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.920 There is, of course, some uncertainty about how much, how wide 00:21:23.040 --> 00:21:27.240 the area will still be covered by rainfall and where it will cause 00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:31.770 problems. The situation on the ground has also changed again, so it 00:21:31.890 --> 00:21:35.660 is virtually impossible to make comparisons in advance. 00:21:35.780 --> 00:21:39.980 We may then be able to analyse both events retrospectively. 00:21:40.100 --> 00:21:44.000 But we would not underestimate today's event in any way. 00:21:44.120 --> 00:21:47.880 We may have forgotten to mention it before, because the tides of the 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.900 Slovenian sea are also a stream of this information. 00:21:51.020 --> 00:21:53.210 It will be a night of high. 00:21:53.330 --> 00:21:58.010 We have had a few high tides in the last week, but this night too. 00:21:58.130 --> 00:22:02.530 Although the astronomical tide is not very high, the strong southerly 00:22:02.650 --> 00:22:04.840 wind will make water surfaces, i.e. 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:09.500 water masses in the northern part of the Adriatic, very high, and areas of 00:22:09.620 --> 00:22:13.780 neighbouring Italy as well as the Slovenian coast will be flooded, 00:22:13.900 --> 00:22:16.369 presumably up to about 40 centimetres. 00:22:16.490 --> 00:22:21.670 Above the coastline, the sea will be quite choppy, so there may be some 00:22:21.790 --> 00:22:25.190 problems with that on our coastline as well. 00:22:30.738 --> 00:22:32.780 Yes, absolutely. The answer is yes. 00:22:32.900 --> 00:22:36.310 Municipalities are also aware of this Regulation and receive it 00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:38.260 through our Notification Centre system. 00:22:38.700 --> 00:22:43.390 All protection, rescue and relief forces also receive this order, 00:22:43.510 --> 00:22:47.960 so we do not give specific instructions with the order, because 00:22:48.080 --> 00:22:52.690 we are already well used to this and the municipalities know well their 00:22:52.810 --> 00:22:54.243 specific area. 00:22:54.364 --> 00:22:57.470 What are the steps they can take beforehand and what do they need to 00:22:57.590 --> 00:23:00.940 prepare for. The Slovenian Armed Forces have been putting one 00:23:01.060 --> 00:23:03.990 reinforced company on standby for the last few orders. 00:23:04.110 --> 00:23:05.370 It's a military term. 00:23:05.490 --> 00:23:09.680 It means 300 to 400 troops, but they can be reinforced by much more, 00:23:09.800 --> 00:23:13.390 of course with the machinery they have at their disposal. 00:23:13.510 --> 00:23:16.710 It is important to know that they still have some of the machinery that 00:23:16.830 --> 00:23:20.140 they have, they still have it on the ground from the third of August, they 00:23:20.260 --> 00:23:21.360 are still there helping. 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:27.540 Now we also have two excavators and two trucks of soldiers in Baška Grapa 00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:32.680 at the moment, so the ones I mentioned are going to stay there 00:23:32.800 --> 00:23:38.330 overnight and will wait until something needs to be done, and if we 00:23:38.450 --> 00:23:39.630 need manpower it will be provided. 00:23:39.750 --> 00:23:43.020 But I hope not. 00:23:47.300 --> 00:23:52.600 Thank you very much. If there are no more questions I just want to remind you 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:59.210 that tomorrow we will invite you to join us at the same time and place 00:23:59.330 --> 00:24:05.010 so again thank you very much and good luck.