WEBVTT 00:00:00.929 --> 00:00:05.615 Hello. The government today passed a draft law 00:00:05.736 --> 00:00:09.260 on the digitalization of the healthcare system and replaced 00:00:09.380 --> 00:00:15.746 its representatives at the Ljubljana Psychiatric Clinic. 00:00:15.866 --> 00:00:20.323 Danijel Bešič Loredan will tell you more about it. 00:00:20.599 --> 00:00:24.743 Minister of Defence Marjan Šarec will present 00:00:24.863 --> 00:00:29.154 the costs of withdrawing from buying Boxer armoured vehicles. 00:00:29.274 --> 00:00:34.656 Some predicted a huge compensation for the €400 million business, 00:00:34.776 --> 00:00:39.792 but the costs will be much lower. The Minister of Infrastructure 00:00:39.912 --> 00:00:45.556 will present the measures to improve Slovenia's air connectivity. 00:00:45.676 --> 00:00:48.223 But first, the Minister of Health. 00:00:50.905 --> 00:00:54.789 Thank you. Hello, everyone. 00:00:55.120 --> 00:01:01.123 I am proud of our team and want to thank them 00:01:02.243 --> 00:01:04.079 for preparing the Law 00:01:04.199 --> 00:01:08.923 on the Digitalization of the Healthcare system. It is a new law. 00:01:09.362 --> 00:01:13.600 When the law passes the parliamentary procedure 00:01:13.721 --> 00:01:15.834 and is passed by the Parliament, 00:01:15.954 --> 00:01:19.138 it will come in force on January 1, 2024. 00:01:19.258 --> 00:01:22.095 We will introduce digital transparency 00:01:22.215 --> 00:01:27.209 into the healthcare system. I want to stress three points. 00:01:27.329 --> 00:01:31.422 When the law comes into force, 00:01:31.542 --> 00:01:34.823 over the years, 00:01:34.943 --> 00:01:38.856 we will have access to all the data. 00:01:39.179 --> 00:01:44.299 Every patient, every Slovenian citizen 00:01:44.419 --> 00:01:48.723 will be able to see through the digital platform 00:01:49.132 --> 00:01:51.892 who is accessing their data. 00:01:52.013 --> 00:01:56.389 We will have full transparency. 00:01:56.743 --> 00:02:01.518 All healthcare providers 00:02:01.638 --> 00:02:06.341 will be required by law to enter the data 00:02:06.461 --> 00:02:11.556 into a unified digital information healthcare system 00:02:11.676 --> 00:02:15.998 which will be managed by the Health Insurance Institute. I want to stress 00:02:16.118 --> 00:02:19.086 that we spent a lot of time 00:02:19.206 --> 00:02:23.409 and worked with other ministries 00:02:23.530 --> 00:02:28.789 to coordinate the law. These are sensitive 00:02:29.135 --> 00:02:33.023 and important personal information. 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:37.585 I want to stress the work with the Ministry of Justice 00:02:37.705 --> 00:02:42.323 and the Information Commissioner. 00:02:42.528 --> 00:02:46.439 We have a legal basis 00:02:46.559 --> 00:02:49.532 and have passed this draft law 00:02:49.652 --> 00:02:55.269 to have a fully digitalized healthcare system 00:02:55.389 --> 00:03:00.057 by January 1, 2026 at the latest 00:03:00.177 --> 00:03:04.155 with all the data, security mechanisms 00:03:04.275 --> 00:03:07.423 and everything that makes it possible 00:03:07.543 --> 00:03:13.223 to not worry as patients. The patients 00:03:13.343 --> 00:03:17.256 will have all the information at one place, 00:03:17.477 --> 00:03:21.956 regardless of where they will be treated, 00:03:22.193 --> 00:03:27.140 where they will go. You won't need papers 00:03:27.260 --> 00:03:29.656 or test results anymore, 00:03:29.838 --> 00:03:34.589 one test will not be made two times. 00:03:34.748 --> 00:03:39.366 All hospitals will have a unified system 00:03:39.486 --> 00:03:45.263 and their departments 00:03:45.383 --> 00:03:48.656 will see what tests have been made 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:54.023 at the primary level. All tests from all the laboratories 00:03:54.143 --> 00:03:57.199 will be on this unified platform. 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:01.337 The Health Insurance Institute and the National Institute 00:04:01.457 --> 00:04:07.189 of Public Health will be involved. They won't be able to back out. 00:04:07.410 --> 00:04:11.570 They will be obliged by law and it will be the condition 00:04:11.690 --> 00:04:15.656 to pay for their services. 00:04:15.956 --> 00:04:20.386 We expect that over time, 00:04:20.506 --> 00:04:24.238 this digital tool will substitute 00:04:24.358 --> 00:04:29.789 staff shortages as well. This digital model, 00:04:30.042 --> 00:04:35.956 the digitalization as a tool in the healthcare system, 00:04:36.162 --> 00:04:39.255 will enable a clear 00:04:39.375 --> 00:04:43.609 and transparent management of all the information, 00:04:43.729 --> 00:04:48.423 all the health data when the system will fully work. 00:04:48.745 --> 00:04:54.487 All providers that get money 00:04:54.607 --> 00:04:59.423 from the public system, will be a part of a unified platform. 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.659 Everything shall be apparent and connectable. 00:05:02.799 --> 00:05:06.019 It will be apparent, who does what and for how much. 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:10.653 The patient shall come first 00:05:10.766 --> 00:05:14.653 and we will govern information on our own. 00:05:14.799 --> 00:05:19.199 It will take a long time, but today we started it 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.699 with the official draft of the law. 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:27.666 This is the beginning of a digital transformation of health care. 00:05:27.986 --> 00:05:31.119 I would like to say something about the other topic. 00:05:31.453 --> 00:05:36.379 The government was thoroughly informed 00:05:36.633 --> 00:05:40.806 about the events in the psychiatric hospital Ljubljana. 00:05:41.073 --> 00:05:46.779 Based on all the information and our report from the Ministry 00:05:46.945 --> 00:05:50.686 what was done in the last two months, 00:05:50.846 --> 00:05:54.866 the government has assessed the Council of the Institute, 00:05:55.099 --> 00:06:01.653 which yesterday authorised the events in the hospital 00:06:01.799 --> 00:06:05.326 as completely all right. They don't see any anomalies. 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.765 The government has as a founder of the hospital 00:06:09.885 --> 00:06:12.353 replaced all five members. 00:06:12.593 --> 00:06:18.039 for the rest of the tenure until 20th February 2026. 00:06:18.273 --> 00:06:23.193 The new representatives are: 00:06:23.533 --> 00:06:28.426 Dr. Tomaž Subotič, Dr. Alenka Kolar, Tomaž Krišelj, 00:06:28.593 --> 00:06:32.346 Anja Kocijančič and Marjan Mačkošek. 00:06:32.633 --> 00:06:36.999 We expect that the new Council 00:06:37.193 --> 00:06:41.239 shall with all seriousness address everything 00:06:41.326 --> 00:06:43.886 that concerns psychiatric hospital 00:06:44.093 --> 00:06:49.893 and reports from patients. It should address it seriously. 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.593 They should assess the work of the Institute's leadership 00:06:53.679 --> 00:06:55.386 and all the measures. 00:06:55.646 --> 00:07:01.759 As a Minister of Health, a doctor and a human 00:07:02.233 --> 00:07:05.626 I would like to let people know 00:07:05.833 --> 00:07:13.093 that the government and me shall take all events at the hospital 00:07:13.339 --> 00:07:17.706 very seriously and get to the bottom of it. 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:22.806 Personally, I'm very disappointed with the appearance and words 00:07:23.059 --> 00:07:26.606 of the manager of the psychiatric hospital. 00:07:26.993 --> 00:07:32.293 I believe nobody can respond against society, 00:07:32.546 --> 00:07:34.913 talk about inquisition 00:07:35.133 --> 00:07:41.026 and put the patients that are among most vulnerable ones 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.233 in such an inferior position. 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:47.213 He put himself above them and said 00:07:47.513 --> 00:07:54.553 that this patients have the most serious forms of mental issues. 00:07:54.846 --> 00:07:59.579 As a Minister of Health 00:07:59.953 --> 00:08:03.806 I appeal this gentleman to resign. 00:08:04.086 --> 00:08:07.813 The communication was completely inappropriate. 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:11.546 The founder and the Minister of Health have an obligation 00:08:11.773 --> 00:08:17.886 to protect people and psychiatric hospital as well. 00:08:18.039 --> 00:08:21.766 This institution has to be open 00:08:21.946 --> 00:08:27.206 and has to be clear about what was done and what wasn't. 00:08:27.453 --> 00:08:32.319 On this point I can emphasize that I have a meeting tomorrow 00:08:32.573 --> 00:08:36.999 with people who want to talk about this with me 00:08:37.133 --> 00:08:42.073 and testify about what happened in the hospital. 00:08:42.433 --> 00:08:46.653 Next week I have a few free slots. I receive a lot of calls. 00:08:46.826 --> 00:08:51.973 We made a protocol and I really wish 00:08:52.113 --> 00:08:58.853 that with the system inspection, the work of the Council 00:08:59.139 --> 00:09:06.033 and after all supervisory bodies have filed a criminal report 00:09:06.136 --> 00:09:11.713 we shall get all the facts and soothe the situation. 00:09:12.053 --> 00:09:17.359 Now I would like to appeal to all the patients, 00:09:17.806 --> 00:09:23.106 who were or will be treated in the psychiatric hospital, 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:29.426 to stay calm. The patients are being treated well. 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:35.406 But if the management and the council 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:38.313 want to close themselves, 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:41.926 they don't want to cooperate 00:09:42.079 --> 00:09:45.979 and they appear in public in such a way, 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.986 I assess it as inadmissible. 00:09:51.266 --> 00:09:54.893 I repeat what I had said. -Thank you very much. 00:09:55.255 --> 00:09:59.488 Now our colleagues can ask some questions. 00:09:59.609 --> 00:10:05.301 First introduce yourself, which media you work for and ask a question. 00:10:05.422 --> 00:10:11.110 I see raised hands on Zoom, we will give them an opportunity. 00:10:13.805 --> 00:10:16.409 Come here, Anže, please. 00:10:21.085 --> 00:10:22.858 Hello. Anže Božič, Pop TV. 00:10:22.979 --> 00:10:25.605 I am interested in the call for Mr Zalar's resignation 00:10:25.726 --> 00:10:29.293 and the change of the council members. 00:10:29.414 --> 00:10:32.297 You always follow a similar pattern, 00:10:32.418 --> 00:10:34.682 for example, we saw the same pattern in Celje. 00:10:34.803 --> 00:10:38.541 When a certain issue arises, 00:10:38.662 --> 00:10:44.790 you recall the state supervisors, where you have the leverage. 00:10:44.911 --> 00:10:47.094 The representatives of the founder. 00:10:47.215 --> 00:10:50.880 Does the Government have any different information 00:10:51.001 --> 00:10:56.282 what was going on there? Given that all the inspections so far 00:10:56.403 --> 00:10:59.931 have shown that there was nothing wrong in the psychiatric clinic. 00:11:00.052 --> 00:11:03.597 The psychiatric clinic has never had external supervision, 00:11:03.718 --> 00:11:07.029 they have only ever had internal professional supervision. 00:11:07.150 --> 00:11:13.489 In the last three months there have been a number of irregularities. 00:11:13.610 --> 00:11:16.204 We have discussed this today in the Government, 00:11:16.325 --> 00:11:18.887 I presented it to my colleagues. That is also why, 00:11:19.008 --> 00:11:21.999 after the Ministry of Health has been looking into 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:25.418 all the anonymous calls for a few months, 00:11:25.539 --> 00:11:28.193 all that has been happening, 00:11:28.314 --> 00:11:33.829 of course our legislative option is clear. 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:37.096 The Government is the founder of the psychiatric clinic, 00:11:37.217 --> 00:11:39.697 the Government appoints five members, 00:11:39.818 --> 00:11:43.690 and because we consider that the council in its previous composition 00:11:43.811 --> 00:11:46.099 did not do its work as well as it should have 00:11:46.220 --> 00:11:48.325 in the role of the supervisory body, 00:11:48.446 --> 00:11:51.755 the Government replaced five members. 00:11:51.876 --> 00:11:55.593 In this case, we expect the new members to carry out their work 00:11:55.714 --> 00:11:59.086 as a supervisory body in a strictly professional manner. 00:11:59.207 --> 00:12:04.499 Once again, my reaction is based on the statements 00:12:04.620 --> 00:12:07.419 made by Mr Zalar in recent days, 00:12:07.540 --> 00:12:10.213 which are simply unacceptable 00:12:10.334 --> 00:12:13.594 and unworthy of the director 00:12:13.715 --> 00:12:19.701 of the most reputable psychiatric clinic or institution in Slovenia. 00:12:21.997 --> 00:12:25.370 Luka Perš, Prava.si online publication. 00:12:25.556 --> 00:12:28.293 First of all, I am interested in the supervisors 00:12:28.414 --> 00:12:30.808 you have said will now occupy positions. 00:12:30.929 --> 00:12:33.158 Did you select them personally? 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.295 On the proposal of the Government. 00:12:35.416 --> 00:12:37.416 I would primarily like to know... 00:12:37.537 --> 00:12:42.394 Marjan Mačkošek was a long-time director of Štore Steel. 00:12:42.515 --> 00:12:44.683 He comes from the iron industry. 00:12:44.804 --> 00:12:49.552 I would like to know what iron has in common with such an important topic 00:12:49.673 --> 00:12:51.273 as psychiatric treatment. 00:12:51.394 --> 00:12:54.894 Or will he supervise finances? 00:12:55.400 --> 00:12:58.528 I would like to know something else. 00:12:58.711 --> 00:13:02.688 You are very exposed in the media. 00:13:02.809 --> 00:13:09.426 Parts of civil society are very critical of you. 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.691 How do you perceive these pressures? 00:13:13.812 --> 00:13:16.694 Is there another story behind this? 00:13:16.815 --> 00:13:23.112 You may have prevented some businesses of Dr Keber's people. 00:13:23.481 --> 00:13:26.722 Thank you. -Thank you for your question. 00:13:26.843 --> 00:13:32.309 The newly appointed members of the council 00:13:32.430 --> 00:13:35.914 will look at the psychiatric clinic as a whole, 00:13:36.035 --> 00:13:40.226 unconnected, unencumbered and this is a matter for the supervisors. 00:13:40.347 --> 00:13:42.669 With a view from afar, 00:13:42.790 --> 00:13:48.181 with the knowledge from managing other, larger systems, 00:13:48.302 --> 00:13:54.668 external supervision should be ordered according to all the rules. 00:13:54.789 --> 00:13:58.505 They need to look at the functioning of the psychiatric clinic as a whole, 00:13:58.626 --> 00:14:03.707 find out all they should have done in the three or five years, 00:14:03.828 --> 00:14:07.607 but they didn't. We have all this data, 00:14:07.728 --> 00:14:10.020 we will hand them over to the council. 00:14:10.141 --> 00:14:15.220 They are the only official supervisory body, 00:14:15.341 --> 00:14:19.290 the Government has appointed them to do their job. 00:14:19.411 --> 00:14:24.001 The second question... This Government and I personally 00:14:24.122 --> 00:14:29.410 am the first minister who made it clear that we want 00:14:29.531 --> 00:14:31.749 a digital transformation of healthcare. 00:14:31.870 --> 00:14:34.017 This means digital transparency, 00:14:34.138 --> 00:14:36.594 because everything will be clear and accessible. 00:14:36.715 --> 00:14:39.629 We see that there is a lot of resistance, 00:14:39.750 --> 00:14:43.488 people want things to stay the same. 00:14:43.609 --> 00:14:45.642 Today, there are three or four databases, 00:14:45.763 --> 00:14:48.054 they are not digital, they are not connected. 00:14:48.175 --> 00:14:50.384 If the databases are not connected, 00:14:50.505 --> 00:14:55.093 we cannot get an accurate and transparent insight 00:14:55.268 --> 00:15:00.028 into the flow of money, the treatment, the outcomes and so on. 00:15:00.149 --> 00:15:07.232 When we presented the reform step by step in January, 00:15:07.636 --> 00:15:11.388 it was clear to see that we will carry it out. 00:15:11.509 --> 00:15:18.135 The key point is structural change of the Health Insurance Institute 00:15:18.256 --> 00:15:20.268 that hasn't changed since 1992. 00:15:20.486 --> 00:15:24.923 We mustn't forget that the legislative procedure 00:15:25.169 --> 00:15:29.415 on abolishing complementary health insurance is nearing the end. 00:15:29.675 --> 00:15:33.790 This will happen for the first time. 00:15:34.012 --> 00:15:39.220 We are pushing buttons in healthcare. 00:15:39.534 --> 00:15:43.853 We are facing enormous pressure and that's nothing new for me. 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:48.189 The Prime Minister and I talk about it regularly. 00:15:49.816 --> 00:15:57.704 The healthcare reform hinges on the Prime Minister. 00:15:58.168 --> 00:16:04.676 He needs to bring all parties together and demand results from me. 00:16:04.797 --> 00:16:09.395 Every step will be consistent. 00:16:11.669 --> 00:16:16.903 Nastja Stopar, Slovenian Television. About the Digitalisation bill ... 00:16:17.136 --> 00:16:20.903 Who'll be able to access the patient's data? 00:16:21.073 --> 00:16:25.329 What if the patient cannot grant their permission? 00:16:25.450 --> 00:16:28.815 Will there be some sort of authorization method? 00:16:29.206 --> 00:16:34.522 There was a lot of criticism about this new company. 00:16:34.668 --> 00:16:37.381 How will this look like? 00:16:38.168 --> 00:16:43.481 Everything is going according to plan and will be consolidated. 00:16:43.777 --> 00:16:51.586 We believe in the newly-founded company. 00:16:53.323 --> 00:16:58.760 The government will decide on its business plans and salaries. 00:16:59.059 --> 00:17:03.924 Nobody will have higher salary. 00:17:04.191 --> 00:17:08.849 This is crystal clear. 00:17:09.253 --> 00:17:15.876 The company manages the data, 00:17:16.419 --> 00:17:21.946 while the Health Insurance Institute is the manager. 00:17:22.312 --> 00:17:29.752 Patient's data will be accessed by authorized persons only. 00:17:29.873 --> 00:17:33.853 This means the doctors. Everything will be transparent. 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:39.891 We know that people access our data regularly, 00:17:40.266 --> 00:17:46.574 and we can't trace that. 00:17:46.707 --> 00:17:51.535 We'll be able to trace everyone with access to the data. 00:17:51.808 --> 00:17:58.835 The patients will be able to see that. Those without 00:17:58.917 --> 00:18:00.850 permission will be punished. 00:18:01.152 --> 00:18:05.842 Changes are still possible. 00:18:06.050 --> 00:18:12.030 This is a completely new bill in healthcare. 00:18:12.168 --> 00:18:19.306 It's a huge project, but I think it will pass the vote asap. 00:18:19.582 --> 00:18:25.626 The key for everyone 00:18:25.918 --> 00:18:31.876 is that we suddenly have control, traceability, 00:18:32.042 --> 00:18:34.048 and digital transparency. 00:18:34.425 --> 00:18:38.668 We don't have that today. That is the key change. 00:18:38.789 --> 00:18:45.386 Without the complete digitalisation of the healthcare system 00:18:46.011 --> 00:18:49.454 the reform cannot be carried out. 00:18:49.597 --> 00:18:54.025 Thank you. We move on to Zoom. Sanja Gornjec, STA. 00:18:56.830 --> 00:18:59.730 Just a second, we can't hear you yet. 00:19:00.838 --> 00:19:02.438 Try now. 00:19:02.948 --> 00:19:05.118 Hello. Can you hear me? 00:19:08.409 --> 00:19:10.009 What about now? 00:19:12.527 --> 00:19:14.658 Can you hear me? -Yes. 00:19:15.418 --> 00:19:17.018 My apologies. 00:19:17.139 --> 00:19:22.086 Mr. Minister, I have a question about the bill you've just discussed. 00:19:22.418 --> 00:19:26.734 You said you want it in place by January 2024. 00:19:26.855 --> 00:19:34.015 Does this mean that it is effectively in use by that date? 00:19:34.418 --> 00:19:40.951 I imagine that setting up the IT centre 00:19:41.121 --> 00:19:45.334 will take more time due to the difficulty of the project. 00:19:45.980 --> 00:19:50.707 You're right. We aim very high. 00:19:50.828 --> 00:19:54.136 We want it to be in force by January 1, 2024. 00:19:54.331 --> 00:19:57.035 A lot of the infrastructure is there already. 00:19:57.236 --> 00:20:01.080 Of course we will be gradually upgrading it all 00:20:01.201 --> 00:20:04.721 for all of 2024 and probably 2025 as well. 00:20:04.908 --> 00:20:08.349 According to the experiences of European states 00:20:08.470 --> 00:20:12.911 that have already done this we can expect a full implementation 00:20:13.032 --> 00:20:16.583 by January 1st 2024, if we are quick and successful. 00:20:16.704 --> 00:20:21.546 We will require two years of intense work 00:20:21.667 --> 00:20:26.808 to upgrade the system to full digital functionality. 00:20:26.929 --> 00:20:32.264 We hope that by January 1st 2024 all providers will receive 00:20:32.483 --> 00:20:36.655 the legal obligation to enter data into the system. 00:20:36.776 --> 00:20:38.785 We do not have this yet. 00:20:38.906 --> 00:20:46.906 We also want to connect all of the existing systems, at all levels, 00:20:47.027 --> 00:20:52.218 and create a safe, functional and transparent digital system 00:20:52.523 --> 00:20:58.288 by means of digital transformation and upgrades. 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.179 We will now take questions 00:21:01.300 --> 00:21:05.765 from Žana Vertačnik and Anže Božič from POP TV. 00:21:05.886 --> 00:21:08.725 Žana Vertačnik, you have the floor. 00:21:13.070 --> 00:21:15.296 Žana Vertačnik, POP TV. 00:21:15.417 --> 00:21:20.184 Could you please elaborate further how you amended the bill 00:21:20.305 --> 00:21:23.145 after the Information Commissioner 00:21:23.266 --> 00:21:26.442 warned that these are very sensitive data. 00:21:26.637 --> 00:21:31.643 How will you protect patients' data? You mentioned sanctions, 00:21:31.764 --> 00:21:34.771 but what about preventative measures, 00:21:34.892 --> 00:21:39.862 so that unauthorised insights would not happen at all? Thank you. 00:21:40.050 --> 00:21:45.245 Administrative and structural capacities are separate. 00:21:45.456 --> 00:21:47.323 We coordinated extensively 00:21:47.444 --> 00:21:51.807 with the Information Commissioner and the Ministry of Justice. 00:21:51.948 --> 00:21:54.666 We still need to adjust some specifics. 00:21:54.787 --> 00:22:00.362 All safety mechanisms will be implemented preventively. 00:22:00.534 --> 00:22:07.042 With this, however, no one can say that our data is not being viewed. 00:22:07.163 --> 00:22:11.862 The key thing is that once the digital system is transparent, 00:22:11.983 --> 00:22:17.067 we can see if someone has looked at our personal medical data, 00:22:17.188 --> 00:22:21.075 who exactly can look at our data, 00:22:21.196 --> 00:22:24.607 what anonymus data management means, 00:22:24.728 --> 00:22:29.013 and what sort of role ZZZS has as manager. 00:22:29.134 --> 00:22:32.680 In short, we took all comments into account 00:22:32.801 --> 00:22:34.970 and we will continue to do so. 00:22:35.618 --> 00:22:40.762 So, all stakeholders are cooperating very closely. 00:22:40.883 --> 00:22:45.133 This bill has been coordinated to the fullest extent 00:22:45.254 --> 00:22:49.407 and will be coordinated further during regular procedure. 00:22:49.528 --> 00:22:53.353 This is a completely new bill in the healtchare system. 00:22:53.487 --> 00:22:57.244 We will need to define the transitional period 00:22:57.365 --> 00:23:00.354 and when the new system comes into effect. 00:23:00.475 --> 00:23:02.789 This is a very difficult matter, 00:23:02.910 --> 00:23:07.751 which I believe we will fully implement by January 1st 2026 00:23:07.872 --> 00:23:11.493 through hard work, starting with January 1st 2024. 00:23:12.665 --> 00:23:18.001 Greetings. I have two questions regarding the psychiatric clinic. 00:23:18.122 --> 00:23:24.641 Why did the Office for Control, Quality and Investments in Healthcare 00:23:24.769 --> 00:23:28.274 not send external supervision there? 00:23:28.486 --> 00:23:32.673 Secondly, since you presented the digitalisation bill today 00:23:32.794 --> 00:23:39.270 and you hold the council responsible for the situation in psychiatry, 00:23:39.481 --> 00:23:44.918 can we assume that you have kept Prime Minister Golob's confidence 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:49.832 and will remain Minister despite civil society demanding you resign? 00:23:49.973 --> 00:23:57.722 First, the Ministry of Health cannot implement 00:23:57.843 --> 00:24:04.339 external professional supervision, as was the case with heart surgery. 00:24:04.550 --> 00:24:07.893 This power lies with the Medical Chamber. 00:24:08.073 --> 00:24:11.651 I appealed to the Medical Chamber at the conference 00:24:11.772 --> 00:24:16.635 and I am appealing to it today to implement professional supervision, 00:24:16.756 --> 00:24:21.307 preferably international, as the topic is particularly sensitive. 00:24:21.428 --> 00:24:24.721 What the Ministry or rather UNKIZ can introduce 00:24:24.842 --> 00:24:26.996 is administrative supervision, 00:24:27.117 --> 00:24:29.964 which would have no basis in this case. 00:24:30.085 --> 00:24:34.528 We have already responded the same way as in Celje. 00:24:34.706 --> 00:24:39.847 In mid May we implemented systemic supervision, 00:24:40.034 --> 00:24:42.463 which encompasses everything, 00:24:42.584 --> 00:24:47.007 staff, management, care, even the Health Inspectorate. 00:24:47.758 --> 00:24:51.687 It takes two to three weeks to put together a commission 00:24:51.808 --> 00:24:57.023 and it will take about three months to get results, as it did in Celje. 00:24:57.144 --> 00:25:01.164 Regarding your second question, things are moving along. 00:25:01.325 --> 00:25:03.340 The PM and I are talking 00:25:03.461 --> 00:25:08.801 and he has shown no indication of losing confidence in me. 00:25:10.223 --> 00:25:14.169 Luka Perš, Prava.si. 00:25:14.622 --> 00:25:20.156 As we know, for a few hours per week you are also employed 00:25:20.277 --> 00:25:25.452 by one of the largest private healthcare providers, mr. Bitenc. 00:25:25.867 --> 00:25:29.296 Information has surfaced that the Ministry 00:25:29.417 --> 00:25:35.716 is going to grant private providers concessions for family medicine. 00:25:35.837 --> 00:25:41.170 Do you perhaps know whether mr. Bitenc has applied for this? 00:25:41.592 --> 00:25:46.686 The Ministry does not grant concessions for family medicine. 00:25:46.998 --> 00:25:52.990 They are granted by municipalities, but I have no information on this. 00:25:53.334 --> 00:25:59.615 Apologies, I misspoke. I do not know if this is in your purview, 00:25:59.857 --> 00:26:04.302 what is the Ministry's relationship with the municipality like? 00:26:04.498 --> 00:26:08.156 The municipality grants concessions for family medicine. 00:26:08.277 --> 00:26:11.045 Perhaps mr. Bitenc is also a candidate. 00:26:11.170 --> 00:26:16.647 Again, concessions are granted primarily by the municipality. 00:26:16.768 --> 00:26:19.767 The Ministry of Health has no data on this, 00:26:19.888 --> 00:26:22.186 but we do give our consent. 00:26:22.318 --> 00:26:27.061 But, as far as I know, we have received nothing new. 00:26:28.201 --> 00:26:31.957 Last question, back to Sanja from STA on Zoom. 00:26:33.865 --> 00:26:37.146 One more question about the psychiatric clinic. 00:26:37.420 --> 00:26:39.505 After yesterday's meeting 00:26:39.626 --> 00:26:42.865 the council wrote in the public address 00:26:43.689 --> 00:26:46.032 that in the past three years fourteen warnings 00:26:46.153 --> 00:26:51.782 before ordinary termination of employment due to reasons of fault 00:26:51.903 --> 00:26:55.415 have been issued at the clinic. 00:26:55.735 --> 00:27:02.431 Is the Ministry aware of this? Do you perhaps know the reasons? 00:27:02.642 --> 00:27:07.008 If you are unable to talk about them, could you perhaps assess 00:27:07.129 --> 00:27:10.712 whether they are reason for additional concerns? 00:27:11.204 --> 00:27:13.720 And has this recent development 00:27:13.841 --> 00:27:19.208 prompted you to think about, or are you perhaps already planning 00:27:19.329 --> 00:27:22.417 to scrutinise or examine the situation 00:27:22.538 --> 00:27:26.168 in other psychiatric hospitals in Slovenia? 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:31.656 Regarding the first question I have no objective information. 00:27:31.941 --> 00:27:35.223 Again, communication between the council 00:27:35.344 --> 00:27:39.566 and UNKIZ and the Ministry was poor. 00:27:39.933 --> 00:27:44.214 We do not have information on what happened at the clinic. 00:27:44.636 --> 00:27:46.786 To answer your second question, 00:27:46.907 --> 00:27:50.989 yes, we instructed the other four psychiatric institutions 00:27:51.110 --> 00:27:55.864 to precisely explain their method of treatment 00:27:55.985 --> 00:28:00.067 for this particularly vulnerable group of people. 00:28:00.290 --> 00:28:03.727 In addition, measures of constraint in psychiatry 00:28:03.848 --> 00:28:06.922 were already supposed to have been reviewed. 00:28:07.043 --> 00:28:08.899 RSK will provide new ones. 00:28:09.050 --> 00:28:13.994 We also found out that the psyhiatric clinic did not follow 00:28:14.115 --> 00:28:21.118 certain recommendations made by the Human Rights Ombudsman in 2021. 00:28:21.239 --> 00:28:24.147 The Ministry of Health has received 00:28:24.268 --> 00:28:28.784 many other such findings in the past few days. 00:28:29.089 --> 00:28:32.094 We thoroughly examine everything we receive 00:28:32.215 --> 00:28:36.440 and as Minister I will personally get to the bottom of this. 00:28:36.767 --> 00:28:40.571 That is the only way to reassure the patients 00:28:40.837 --> 00:28:45.525 and to put things in order at the psychiatric clinic. 00:28:45.812 --> 00:28:51.554 Thank you Minister, have a nice day. -Thank you, goodbye. 00:28:51.898 --> 00:28:55.257 The Minister of Infrastructure, Alenka Bratušek, 00:28:55.378 --> 00:28:59.382 will present everything that the government adopted today 00:28:59.503 --> 00:29:03.944 in order to improve Slovenia's air connectivity with the world. 00:29:04.921 --> 00:29:10.585 Thank you. As I am sure you all know, 00:29:10.706 --> 00:29:14.964 we had a two hour long presentation last week 00:29:15.085 --> 00:29:19.687 in which we very thoroughly presented two studies, 00:29:20.125 --> 00:29:24.468 which, for the first time, showed the exact situation 00:29:24.589 --> 00:29:28.398 of air connectivity in our country. 00:29:28.578 --> 00:29:32.617 The government became acquainted with these studies today 00:29:32.842 --> 00:29:39.256 and as of this afternoon they will be available on our website, 00:29:39.377 --> 00:29:42.116 so you can see them yourselves. 00:29:42.237 --> 00:29:47.686 That is why I will not be talking about the data within them. 00:29:48.188 --> 00:29:52.766 The government also read the report of the head of the work group 00:29:52.887 --> 00:29:56.680 for examining options for improving air connectivity 00:29:56.801 --> 00:30:00.633 and the work group's conclusions. 00:30:00.943 --> 00:30:04.389 There are four of these conclusions. 00:30:04.833 --> 00:30:12.677 They have found that the subsidies we first outlined 00:30:12.798 --> 00:30:15.646 did not yield sufficient results. 00:30:15.950 --> 00:30:23.240 They also found in their study that the most sensible solution 00:30:23.639 --> 00:30:29.975 is to co-found a company with a strategic partner. 00:30:30.300 --> 00:30:34.596 The third conclusion, which the government accepted, 00:30:34.956 --> 00:30:40.049 was for the government to order the Ministry of Infrastructure 00:30:40.222 --> 00:30:44.557 to continue cooperating with the relevant departments 00:30:44.678 --> 00:30:49.018 in the search for legal, economic and other solutions 00:30:49.139 --> 00:30:51.495 to improve air connectivity, 00:30:51.745 --> 00:30:58.123 including potentially affiliating with existing airlines. 00:30:59.715 --> 00:31:01.878 I said last Thursday 00:31:01.999 --> 00:31:06.300 that this is what I wish to get from the government. 00:31:06.511 --> 00:31:11.026 Let me clearly say that there has been no proposal yet, 00:31:11.147 --> 00:31:19.034 as there is no basis for Slovenia to found or co-found an airline. 00:31:19.155 --> 00:31:22.078 There is a number of steps remaining 00:31:22.199 --> 00:31:25.625 before we can even begin making decisions. 00:31:26.579 --> 00:31:34.569 The aviation business is strictly regulated by European rules. 00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:42.626 The Ministry of Infrastructure will put all of this forth 00:31:42.781 --> 00:31:48.673 so that the government will be able to decide on how to act. 00:31:48.891 --> 00:31:52.656 Thank you, Minister. Are there any questions? 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:57.023 Please step over here. 00:31:58.485 --> 00:32:02.773 I think everything was explained last week. -Very thoroughly. 00:32:02.894 --> 00:32:08.523 Very well. -I have a question. I will be very short. 00:32:08.782 --> 00:32:15.134 Please, step to the microphone. -Luka Perš, Prava.si. 00:32:16.031 --> 00:32:20.399 You have probably already answered these questions many times. 00:32:22.055 --> 00:32:25.992 As far as I know, pilots used to found airlines as well, 00:32:26.113 --> 00:32:28.446 which was then sold. 00:32:30.274 --> 00:32:32.242 What changed? 00:32:32.363 --> 00:32:36.989 Is it just the economic data on tourism? 00:32:37.337 --> 00:32:41.430 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have seen some data 00:32:41.551 --> 00:32:46.891 that there are more passengers now than last year. 00:32:49.173 --> 00:32:52.723 Regarding this study, we have received information 00:32:52.844 --> 00:32:56.110 that the commission was quite interesting 00:32:56.571 --> 00:33:00.219 and that mr. Damjan's study is problematic, 00:33:00.530 --> 00:33:05.858 since they used old data and manipulated numbers 00:33:05.979 --> 00:33:08.194 so it would seem more favourable 00:33:08.315 --> 00:33:11.414 for the government to go into this project. 00:33:12.014 --> 00:33:16.186 That is all for now. -I will start at the end 00:33:16.307 --> 00:33:20.491 because mr. Damjan and two other commission members 00:33:20.612 --> 00:33:24.780 were with me at the press conference last Thursday. 00:33:24.901 --> 00:33:28.901 They answered that this is not true. 00:33:29.022 --> 00:33:34.083 I was not personally present in those work groups. 00:33:34.591 --> 00:33:39.589 Studies show that Slovenia is recovering the worst 00:33:39.710 --> 00:33:43.521 among all European countries. 00:33:43.942 --> 00:33:50.638 By several tens of percents worse than other European countries. 00:33:51.732 --> 00:33:56.223 I will probably repeat myself for the hundredth time. 00:33:56.461 --> 00:34:00.214 It does not say anywhere that we have decided, 00:34:00.335 --> 00:34:04.410 nor has there been a proposal for the government to decide 00:34:04.531 --> 00:34:08.465 to found or co-found a new airline. 00:34:08.887 --> 00:34:12.189 But I was very critical in 2016, 00:34:12.746 --> 00:34:17.918 when Cerar's government, or rather SDH under mr. Jazbec, 00:34:18.144 --> 00:34:21.480 sold Adria Airways to an investment fund, 00:34:21.601 --> 00:34:25.613 which drained it and brought it to bankruptcy. 00:34:26.012 --> 00:34:29.043 So far I have not yet stated an opinion. 00:34:29.164 --> 00:34:35.089 Yes, Slovenia needs a new airline and will create one. 00:34:35.210 --> 00:34:38.666 For the first time we have studies and numbers 00:34:38.787 --> 00:34:43.564 that clearly show the damage that the Slovenian economy is suffering 00:34:43.685 --> 00:34:45.526 due to poor connectivity. 00:34:45.647 --> 00:34:48.785 We are talking several hundred million euros. 00:34:48.906 --> 00:34:53.816 The government has mandated the Ministry of Infrastructure 00:34:53.993 --> 00:35:01.123 to continue the process of acquiring a lot more data, 00:35:01.244 --> 00:35:05.343 as this study is the basis for us to move forward. 00:35:05.464 --> 00:35:09.335 I am very happy with what the government adopted today. 00:35:11.359 --> 00:35:12.960 Nastja Stopar, RTV. 00:35:13.081 --> 00:35:17.848 Slovenian highways are once again experiencing congestion, 00:35:17.969 --> 00:35:20.046 right before tourist season. 00:35:20.313 --> 00:35:24.587 Do you have any measures prepared in this area? Thank you. 00:35:25.421 --> 00:35:29.249 I have said this several times 00:35:29.445 --> 00:35:33.296 and people will likely not be happy about it. 00:35:34.029 --> 00:35:39.523 Renovations on railroads as well as roads 00:35:39.644 --> 00:35:43.646 are one of the reasons for congestion. 00:35:43.982 --> 00:35:49.599 Another reason are holidays in neighbouring countries, 00:35:49.720 --> 00:35:53.373 which increase traffic in Slovenia. 00:35:53.524 --> 00:36:00.389 We often boast that we have an exceptional geostrategic position, 00:36:00.510 --> 00:36:03.935 and we do, but what happens on the roads 00:36:04.056 --> 00:36:09.040 is a consequence of our excellent geostrategic position. 00:36:09.329 --> 00:36:14.758 But traffic strategies and traffic policies have fallen under 00:36:14.879 --> 00:36:22.000 the new Ministry of the Environment, Climate and Energy 00:36:22.121 --> 00:36:30.056 ever since its establishment. -Thank you very much. -Thank you. 00:36:30.626 --> 00:36:32.556 Thank you, Minister. 00:36:32.907 --> 00:36:38.590 Defence Minister Marjan Šarec will now present the cost of withdrawal 00:36:38.711 --> 00:36:43.509 from the deal to purchase BOXER armoured vehicles. 00:36:43.983 --> 00:36:48.757 Welcome to today's press conference. 00:36:49.132 --> 00:36:54.256 Approximately one year ago we began drawing up 00:36:54.377 --> 00:36:57.655 a contract for the BOXER programme. 00:36:58.076 --> 00:37:02.833 OCCAR's initial assessment was that the costs could amount 00:37:02.954 --> 00:37:08.989 to 20 % of the estimated value of the contract. 00:37:09.279 --> 00:37:14.294 The number mentioned then was therefore 70 million euros. 00:37:14.415 --> 00:37:19.575 I have very good news today. After one year 00:37:20.028 --> 00:37:27.895 the final cost is approximately 4 150 000 euros. 00:37:28.016 --> 00:37:34.523 The loss that was prevented is very high. 00:37:34.785 --> 00:37:40.050 If the government had not acted quickly and decisively last year 00:37:40.324 --> 00:37:43.035 the loss could have been much greater. 00:37:43.156 --> 00:37:49.402 But now we have saved, if I may even use that word with this deal, 00:37:49.523 --> 00:37:56.323 65 million euros. -This also fulfilled the pre-election promise. 00:37:57.201 --> 00:38:03.428 Yes, we fulfilled our promise to withdraw from the programme. 00:38:03.678 --> 00:38:11.342 However, we would not even have to pay the 4 150 000 euros 00:38:11.717 --> 00:38:15.482 if we had followed the wishes of dr. Robert Golob, 00:38:15.603 --> 00:38:20.859 who expressed the wish to not sign this detrimental contract 00:38:20.980 --> 00:38:26.456 a long time ago, but the previous government signed it anyway. 00:38:26.734 --> 00:38:29.757 But through quick and decisive action 00:38:29.878 --> 00:38:33.000 we prevented an even greater loss. 00:38:33.195 --> 00:38:35.189 Thank you. Questions? 00:38:35.476 --> 00:38:39.570 Petra Marc, RTV. Why was there such a difference? 00:38:39.734 --> 00:38:42.671 What was OCCAR's projected cost for, 00:38:42.792 --> 00:38:46.383 that you determined was unnecessary? 00:38:46.539 --> 00:38:50.242 Secondly, have all liabilites been settled already? 00:38:50.363 --> 00:38:54.672 Has Slovenia already paid the 4 million or not? 00:38:54.832 --> 00:38:57.754 The point is that we reacted quickly 00:38:57.875 --> 00:39:01.977 and the industry was unable to present any expenses 00:39:02.098 --> 00:39:06.937 for something that did not exist. You cannot demand payment 00:39:07.065 --> 00:39:10.323 for something you have not yet produced. 00:39:10.644 --> 00:39:14.019 This was also shown in the negotiations 00:39:14.140 --> 00:39:17.738 and that is why the number is such as it is. 00:39:17.859 --> 00:39:23.477 We also believe that entrance fees or rather development expenses 00:39:23.598 --> 00:39:29.255 cannot be charged, since they apply to purchased vehicles, 00:39:29.470 --> 00:39:33.521 which, of course, will not be delivered. 00:39:33.701 --> 00:39:37.107 So there can be no development expenses. 00:39:38.529 --> 00:39:42.740 Metka? -Can you tell us if everything has already been paid? 00:39:43.162 --> 00:39:51.091 Last year we paid 438 000 euros in administrative expenses 00:39:51.212 --> 00:39:57.537 and 2,5 million euros for the operational budget. 00:39:57.928 --> 00:40:05.420 This year we paid 375 000 euros in administrative expenses. 00:40:06.818 --> 00:40:11.802 That was our only remaining obligation, 00:40:11.923 --> 00:40:15.115 the rest of the matter is now closed. 00:40:15.236 --> 00:40:19.217 We have settled these liabilites, 00:40:19.338 --> 00:40:25.120 that is why the final estimated loss is such as it is. 00:40:26.932 --> 00:40:28.604 Metka Majer, POP TV. 00:40:28.725 --> 00:40:33.111 Could you be more specific regarding the 70 million? 00:40:33.232 --> 00:40:37.208 Was that OCCAR's estimate? 00:40:37.329 --> 00:40:42.099 No, it was an estimate based on the value of the contract. 00:40:42.220 --> 00:40:45.138 The cost of withdrawal was estimated 00:40:45.259 --> 00:40:53.252 at 20 % of the contract's value, which amounted to this number. 00:40:53.534 --> 00:40:57.377 But this wasn't stipulated in the contract. 00:40:57.498 --> 00:41:02.540 The contract defined that these costs 00:41:02.661 --> 00:41:07.282 could amount to 20 % of the contract's value. 00:41:07.403 --> 00:41:10.853 This was all a matter of negotiation 00:41:11.087 --> 00:41:16.540 and quick reactions. If we had waited and done nothing, 00:41:16.661 --> 00:41:20.548 the number could certainly have been that high. 00:41:20.669 --> 00:41:23.235 But because we reacted quickly, 00:41:23.356 --> 00:41:29.235 stopped the project and ended the process, 00:41:29.356 --> 00:41:35.329 the cost was that much lower. -So, this matter is completely closed? 00:41:35.450 --> 00:41:40.403 It will be closed when all OCCAR Member States confirm this. 00:41:40.524 --> 00:41:43.751 For now the process is still ongoing. 00:41:43.978 --> 00:41:48.360 We have now determined the costs of withdrawal. 00:41:48.585 --> 00:41:50.241 It is not all up to us, 00:41:50.362 --> 00:41:54.226 all OCCAR Member States still need to consent. 00:41:54.347 --> 00:41:58.099 When they all conclude this withdrawal process 00:41:58.220 --> 00:42:03.337 we will be able to say that the withdrawal has been finalised. 00:42:03.458 --> 00:42:09.021 This will probably take all of this year. 00:42:09.205 --> 00:42:17.197 So, what is next? Slovenia will purchase eight-wheelers. 00:42:17.318 --> 00:42:21.253 What is happening with this tender now? 00:42:21.374 --> 00:42:24.417 When can we expect any kind of decision? 00:42:24.538 --> 00:42:27.923 When we calculated the total costs 00:42:28.044 --> 00:42:31.923 and added them to the BOXER contract, 00:42:32.228 --> 00:42:39.204 we came to a little under 400 million euros, with tax. 00:42:39.325 --> 00:42:44.423 That is how much those 45 vehicles would actually cost us. 00:42:44.657 --> 00:42:47.868 The government decided 00:42:48.564 --> 00:42:55.142 that in the new deal, that will be made, 00:42:55.423 --> 00:43:00.063 at least 400 million euros need to be saved. 00:43:00.184 --> 00:43:06.962 The savings on the entire deal must be demonstrated. 00:43:07.083 --> 00:43:15.065 Once we conclude the process of choosing eight-wheeled vehicles, 00:43:15.186 --> 00:43:17.612 we will know more. 00:43:17.733 --> 00:43:22.698 But, again, we are approaching the end of this process, 00:43:22.819 --> 00:43:26.656 so we will be able to disclose to the public 00:43:26.862 --> 00:43:29.869 which vehicle we will choose. 00:43:29.990 --> 00:43:33.159 But at the moment I cannot talk about this 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:36.201 because the process has not concluded yet. 00:43:37.170 --> 00:43:41.779 When will it be? Very soon? 00:43:41.900 --> 00:43:49.318 Yes, we should definitely know more in the coming weeks 00:43:49.439 --> 00:43:51.967 once this process is concluded. 00:43:52.088 --> 00:43:57.723 So, you cannot reveal which vehicles you are choosing from? 00:43:57.844 --> 00:44:01.584 I cannot disclose any details yet. 00:44:01.705 --> 00:44:07.670 You know me, I like to be careful when it is not all up to us. 00:44:07.791 --> 00:44:15.076 There are procedures, we conducted a market research. 00:44:15.197 --> 00:44:18.334 We did this by the book, so to speak. 00:44:19.397 --> 00:44:21.956 The deal will be intergovernmental, 00:44:22.077 --> 00:44:27.568 without intermediaries, without buying inoperative prototypes. 00:44:27.762 --> 00:44:32.348 We have had very bad experiences in the past. 00:44:32.598 --> 00:44:37.519 That is why we want to carry this process out transparently 00:44:37.640 --> 00:44:39.832 and by the rules. 00:44:40.075 --> 00:44:45.122 That is why a week or a month makes no difference here. 00:44:45.442 --> 00:44:50.056 We have one more question. Please, step to the microphone. 00:44:50.332 --> 00:44:54.699 Ah, mr. Perš. -Hello, mr. Šarec, we have not spoken yet today. 00:44:54.820 --> 00:44:56.551 Luka Perš, Prava.si. 00:44:56.902 --> 00:45:04.316 First, congratulations on the good deal that saved our country money. 00:45:06.411 --> 00:45:12.423 A while ago we purchased fire-fighting aircraft. 00:45:12.544 --> 00:45:14.879 Have you made any projections 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:20.254 on how much sooner the fire in the Karst would have been extinguished 00:45:20.375 --> 00:45:22.793 if we had those aircraft then? 00:45:23.801 --> 00:45:29.426 Secondly, last week the media site Topnews, as well as our own, 00:45:29.825 --> 00:45:34.423 summarised an anonymous four-page letter from SOVA. 00:45:34.770 --> 00:45:38.691 It said that Damir Črnčec, your State Secretary, 00:45:38.812 --> 00:45:41.488 created some sort of para-network 00:45:41.609 --> 00:45:44.981 with the cadres of SDS, LMŠ and Svoboda 00:45:45.102 --> 00:45:48.637 Not one, three! -Three, then, even better. 00:45:49.598 --> 00:45:51.356 It said he cooperated 00:45:51.477 --> 00:45:55.498 with the former director of the Macedonian secret service 00:45:55.619 --> 00:45:58.912 who found himself in some criminal proceedings. 00:45:59.033 --> 00:46:03.100 Have you read this? Do you know anything about this? 00:46:03.221 --> 00:46:08.784 I must admit I have not read this, so I cannot give any comment. 00:46:09.323 --> 00:46:11.744 But regarding those aircraft, 00:46:11.865 --> 00:46:16.854 which have already been and have yet to be purchased, 00:46:16.975 --> 00:46:21.495 they are meant to quickly discover an initial fire 00:46:21.616 --> 00:46:24.116 and extinguish it immediately. 00:46:24.237 --> 00:46:27.913 These aircraft are used to prevent situations 00:46:28.034 --> 00:46:31.166 like the one last year in the Karst. 00:46:31.399 --> 00:46:33.610 They are not really meant to act 00:46:33.731 --> 00:46:37.805 once everything is already burning and visibility is poor. 00:46:37.926 --> 00:46:42.682 They try to extinguish an initial fire as soon as possible 00:46:42.803 --> 00:46:45.763 and thereby prevent greater damage 00:46:45.964 --> 00:46:52.223 as well as the need to activate more people, and everything else. 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.971 Thank you. -Thank you, Minister. 00:46:55.092 --> 00:46:59.805 That concludes this press conference. -Thank you. -Have a nice day.