WEBVTT 00:00:01.328 --> 00:00:06.283 Dear journalists, guests 00:00:06.403 --> 00:00:12.878 and everyone following us. Welcome at the press conference 00:00:12.998 --> 00:00:17.457 of the Slovene and North Macedonian PM. 00:00:18.075 --> 00:00:22.014 Today, the PM Robert Golob is hosting 00:00:22.135 --> 00:00:26.357 the North Macedonian PM Dimitar Kovačevski. 00:00:26.899 --> 00:00:30.831 They want to strengthen the cooperation 00:00:30.951 --> 00:00:34.190 and continue with the political dialogue. 00:00:35.060 --> 00:00:39.133 First, I give the floor to the Slovene PM Robert Golob, 00:00:39.253 --> 00:00:43.290 who will tell us more. Mr. Golob, go ahead. 00:00:44.168 --> 00:00:48.057 Welcome, everyone. I am glad 00:00:49.067 --> 00:00:52.857 to host the North Macedonian PM. 00:00:53.078 --> 00:00:59.343 North Macedonia has been on the same page with Slovenia 00:00:59.463 --> 00:01:04.623 throughout the whole history. It is a friendly country. 00:01:05.141 --> 00:01:10.143 We don’t have in common just the Euro-Atlantic geopolitical views, 00:01:10.356 --> 00:01:13.780 but also excellent bilateral relations 00:01:13.900 --> 00:01:17.357 and the relationship between both nations. 00:01:18.210 --> 00:01:21.800 Today, we talked about this. 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:25.257 How to strengthen our cooperation, 00:01:25.509 --> 00:01:28.957 the declaration is a step in this direction. 00:01:29.123 --> 00:01:35.423 Slovenia wants to help North Macedonia in any way possible. 00:01:35.942 --> 00:01:40.457 Since 2010, 00:01:40.578 --> 00:01:44.032 Slovenia has been one of the biggest donors 00:01:44.152 --> 00:01:48.579 of development help, mostly development help 00:01:48.699 --> 00:01:55.079 for the development of the infrastructure and social networks 00:01:55.199 --> 00:01:58.690 in North Macedonia. 00:01:58.982 --> 00:02:04.890 During this time, Slovenia has contributed 37.7 million 00:02:05.111 --> 00:02:07.957 for all kinds of help, 00:02:08.186 --> 00:02:12.557 but mostly for the development of the infrastructure. 00:02:13.075 --> 00:02:16.257 It is important that this help isn't in vain. 00:02:16.377 --> 00:02:22.057 Slovene companies work on the infrastructure for waste water. 00:02:22.552 --> 00:02:27.015 It is help where Slovene companies 00:02:27.135 --> 00:02:32.257 have economical and investment interest. 00:02:32.626 --> 00:02:38.624 I believe we will continue doing it. We will help North Macedonia 00:02:38.744 --> 00:02:43.779 and increase our trade exchange, 00:02:43.899 --> 00:02:48.890 which is very balanced and it should stay this way. 00:02:49.970 --> 00:02:56.627 We also talked about cooperating in investments in North Macedonia. 00:02:56.748 --> 00:03:01.790 Slovenia is one of the biggest investors, it is among the top five. 00:03:02.043 --> 00:03:07.223 Last year, we had a 7% part of all the investments 00:03:07.514 --> 00:03:11.690 which shows the Slovene economy 00:03:12.880 --> 00:03:18.360 has a good understanding of North Macedonia. 00:03:18.480 --> 00:03:23.623 It is a basis for our relationship in the future. 00:03:24.102 --> 00:03:29.690 Almost 1,500 Macedonian students study in Slovenia 00:03:30.191 --> 00:03:33.690 and we want them to be the bridge between the countries. 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:37.793 Slovenia should not just be the window to the EU, but a place 00:03:37.913 --> 00:03:42.173 where we cooperate 00:03:42.293 --> 00:03:46.690 with the Macedonian government and society. 00:03:46.872 --> 00:03:51.274 These students go back and we should cooperate. 00:03:51.728 --> 00:03:57.642 This agenda is our priority 00:03:57.762 --> 00:04:01.490 and I believe we will make progress. 00:04:02.344 --> 00:04:05.415 And the most important thing. In Slovenia, we believe 00:04:05.535 --> 00:04:10.023 that Macedonia and its Euro-Atlantic journey 00:04:10.228 --> 00:04:14.557 are an important factor in the stability of the Western Balkans. 00:04:15.349 --> 00:04:19.227 The process that started last year 00:04:19.596 --> 00:04:24.990 and got a new momentum, I am talking about the negotiations 00:04:25.110 --> 00:04:30.371 of North Macedonia and Albania to join the EU, 00:04:30.491 --> 00:04:34.090 should not stop, especially not now. 00:04:34.499 --> 00:04:38.357 Many people want this process to stop. 00:04:38.562 --> 00:04:45.290 They don't care about the interest of the people in the Western Balkans 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:51.393 and we will do everything to support Mr. Kovačevski's government 00:04:51.513 --> 00:04:57.857 and other efforts in North Macedonia 00:04:58.657 --> 00:05:03.610 to fulfil the expectations 00:05:03.730 --> 00:05:10.590 and obligations to the EU, but the EU has to understand 00:05:10.710 --> 00:05:16.274 the importance of this moment in North Macedonia 00:05:16.479 --> 00:05:21.090 and make sure the process doesn't stop. 00:05:21.936 --> 00:05:24.889 Last year, we achieved a lot 00:05:25.009 --> 00:05:30.457 and the process should not stop. 00:05:30.944 --> 00:05:36.690 This is the key message today. Slovenia will be active 00:05:37.294 --> 00:05:40.868 in Brussels and in the region 00:05:40.988 --> 00:05:44.090 if it will benefit North Macedonia. 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:50.010 Today, we showed that they can count 00:05:50.130 --> 00:05:53.424 on our alliance and support. 00:05:53.544 --> 00:05:59.457 We will of course coordinate with their government. 00:05:59.928 --> 00:06:04.290 We believe now is the right time for it. 00:06:06.230 --> 00:06:09.423 This is all for now, later I will answer questions. 00:06:10.205 --> 00:06:14.550 Thank you. Dear PM of North Macedonia 00:06:14.670 --> 00:06:18.390 Dimitar Kovačevski, go ahead. 00:06:21.056 --> 00:06:26.290 Dear PM Golob, dear ministers of the Slovenian 00:06:26.410 --> 00:06:29.423 and North Macedonian government, 00:06:29.543 --> 00:06:33.546 dear foreign minister, 00:06:33.666 --> 00:06:36.788 dear media representatives. 00:06:39.143 --> 00:06:43.241 I can see when everyone was born. 00:06:43.361 --> 00:06:48.936 Journalists from North Macedonia are younger 00:06:49.056 --> 00:06:53.399 and they needed an interpreter 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:57.974 to understand Mr. Golob. I didn't understand him. 00:06:58.094 --> 00:07:05.007 We come from the same country and we speak all languages 00:07:05.127 --> 00:07:09.202 that were spoken there. It is our tradition 00:07:09.322 --> 00:07:13.021 that is crowned by the friendship between both countries. 00:07:13.141 --> 00:07:17.458 I am glad to be in Slovenia. 00:07:17.578 --> 00:07:21.997 I want to thank the PM for inviting me 00:07:22.117 --> 00:07:27.490 and accept me as a good host. 00:07:28.344 --> 00:07:32.043 The connections between Slovenia and Macedonia are strong. 00:07:32.163 --> 00:07:36.535 We have had an honest relationship since our independence 00:07:36.655 --> 00:07:42.432 and we respect each other. We honestly talked 00:07:42.552 --> 00:07:47.901 about our relationship until now 00:07:48.021 --> 00:07:53.385 and made a plan for the future. We also talked about other questions, 00:07:53.505 --> 00:07:57.399 questions that are important for the region and other issues, 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:04.110 such as the Ukraine war and our commitments. 00:08:04.230 --> 00:08:10.090 We signed the declaration to strengthen our cooperation 00:08:10.312 --> 00:08:14.369 which is a sign of our friendship 00:08:14.489 --> 00:08:16.903 and partnership between the countries. 00:08:17.036 --> 00:08:21.890 We established our future work 00:08:22.174 --> 00:08:26.090 where we could cooperate. 00:08:26.476 --> 00:08:31.357 We want to strengthen the bilateral relations. 00:08:31.477 --> 00:08:35.690 Our governments will meet together 00:08:36.786 --> 00:08:42.399 by the end of the year if it will be possible. 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:48.690 We will talk about important bilateral and regional questions. 00:08:51.232 --> 00:08:55.079 We also talked about the region, 00:08:55.199 --> 00:09:00.750 about the current issues. We need to keep the geopolitical momentum 00:09:00.870 --> 00:09:05.590 to ensure our safety. We agreed 00:09:05.710 --> 00:09:10.317 on a better coordination and a regular dialogue 00:09:10.437 --> 00:09:15.623 to contribute to the cohesion of the countries in the Western Balkans 00:09:15.892 --> 00:09:21.857 and strengthen their way toward the EU. 00:09:22.102 --> 00:09:26.117 We also agreed 00:09:26.237 --> 00:09:29.554 to discuss our foreign policy 00:09:29.674 --> 00:09:33.623 and talks in the region. North Macedonia showed 00:09:33.743 --> 00:09:39.396 that we can contribute to the stability of the region. 00:09:39.516 --> 00:09:44.045 We want to be a society of equals, 00:09:44.166 --> 00:09:49.391 this is our internal policy, but we also want a dialogue 00:09:49.511 --> 00:09:54.810 with all countries in the region. There is also a question 00:09:54.930 --> 00:09:58.751 and it is clear 00:09:58.871 --> 00:10:04.954 that we support the EU policy regarding the situation in Ukraine 00:10:05.147 --> 00:10:12.140 which showed continuity and a credit to European values 00:10:12.354 --> 00:10:15.660 that have been cherished since our independence. 00:10:15.827 --> 00:10:20.347 I would like to thank my host, Mr Golob, and Republic of Slovenia 00:10:20.494 --> 00:10:28.167 for always sincere support on our Euro-Atlantic course 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.934 and development in all past years. 00:10:31.227 --> 00:10:37.454 This support was very gracious, 00:10:37.714 --> 00:10:40.960 which was evident on last June, 00:10:41.147 --> 00:10:45.987 when after 17 years, since we are a candidate, 00:10:46.367 --> 00:10:52.547 we have started the discussion with EU. 00:10:53.147 --> 00:10:57.427 This support is still very important, 00:10:57.887 --> 00:11:00.240 as Premier Golob has emphasized. 00:11:00.680 --> 00:11:07.407 Here, I would like to thank for Slovenian support 00:11:07.774 --> 00:11:11.280 to all the MPs of the National Assembly. 00:11:11.447 --> 00:11:16.794 Considering this moment and possibility to make a new step 00:11:16.934 --> 00:11:21.260 in the process of negotiation 00:11:21.427 --> 00:11:27.660 to become a full Member State. Here, I would like to say 00:11:27.794 --> 00:11:31.320 that the Republic of North Macedonia and its citizens 00:11:31.780 --> 00:11:38.507 are aware of its role in the European and regional context. 00:11:38.680 --> 00:11:41.960 I believe, we shall successfully walk on a European path, 00:11:42.194 --> 00:11:45.687 although certain external and internal forces 00:11:45.807 --> 00:11:50.980 don't want this. At the end, the ones, 00:11:51.174 --> 00:11:56.074 who believe in justice and a better tomorrow, 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:02.554 are always winners. The citizens, the nation always support them. 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:07.807 The support of Slovenia on our path to the EU is not only political, 00:12:07.940 --> 00:12:10.774 but it is actual and practical. 00:12:11.714 --> 00:12:16.000 Among others, a Slovenian technical support 00:12:16.174 --> 00:12:22.954 for improvement of administrative capacity in integration, 00:12:23.354 --> 00:12:32.007 with readjustment of our legislation with EU's is very important. 00:12:32.274 --> 00:12:37.067 Slovenia has been supporting the progress of North Macedonia 00:12:37.260 --> 00:12:41.380 with almost 40 million Euros for implementing the reforms, 00:12:41.560 --> 00:12:46.107 which result from a process of integration 00:12:46.307 --> 00:12:53.160 and a general development of many areas in our country. 00:12:54.014 --> 00:13:00.367 As far as the help for development is concerned, 00:13:00.647 --> 00:13:06.140 Slovenia is allocating its help to the Western Balkans. 00:13:06.294 --> 00:13:10.400 60% of it goes there and 40% to other countries. 00:13:10.554 --> 00:13:15.960 It just corroborates the fact that Slovenia is one of the best friends 00:13:16.114 --> 00:13:21.274 to the countries of Western Balkans and its promoter in the EU. 00:13:21.887 --> 00:13:26.974 I have to emphasize a great help we get from Slovenia, 00:13:27.134 --> 00:13:30.660 especially from its Ministry of Agriculture. 00:13:30.940 --> 00:13:36.254 For developing the programs in our country. 00:13:36.454 --> 00:13:40.560 Because of the knowledge they have brought, 00:13:40.794 --> 00:13:48.654 we are a country with the best yield from the funds in the EU. 00:13:48.947 --> 00:13:54.427 We are even better than some of EU Member States. 00:13:54.794 --> 00:14:00.447 We are developing wine production in our country 00:14:00.587 --> 00:14:06.334 and small wineries we are all boasting about. 00:14:06.527 --> 00:14:11.520 Yesterday, in the wine fair in Verona we could show them, 00:14:11.774 --> 00:14:14.787 with our friends from Serbia and Albania, 00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:22.474 which wouldn't be possible without the expert help 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:27.180 in adopting a politics and economic models 00:14:27.347 --> 00:14:32.327 that we got from Slovenia. 00:14:32.500 --> 00:14:37.474 A lot about it can tell us the Minister of Agriculture, 00:14:37.560 --> 00:14:40.800 who is here with us today. 00:14:40.947 --> 00:14:45.734 We have also foreseen an improvement in collaboration 00:14:45.854 --> 00:14:50.014 on integration of North Macedonia in the EU. 00:14:50.220 --> 00:14:56.480 It was all focused on a preparation of Macedonia for the EU, 00:14:56.814 --> 00:15:03.940 for working and entering the EU. Slovenia has the best experiences, 00:15:04.234 --> 00:15:08.934 including the projects that EU is financing, 00:15:09.154 --> 00:15:14.387 and that would help us to fulfil the criteria for the membership. 00:15:14.694 --> 00:15:19.414 We are also going to reinforce the collaboration 00:15:19.794 --> 00:15:23.380 in the area of green agenda 00:15:23.560 --> 00:15:26.800 and in the area of youth, the cultural exchange 00:15:27.100 --> 00:15:31.414 and exchange in the field of science and higher education, 00:15:31.567 --> 00:15:34.554 which is on a very high level. 00:15:34.814 --> 00:15:39.367 Primarily, we would like to improve the economy. 00:15:39.574 --> 00:15:43.514 Our cooperation is very productive, as Mr Golob has said, 00:15:43.654 --> 00:15:45.760 in the area of economy. 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:51.734 Slovenian investors would like to invest in our country 00:15:52.114 --> 00:15:57.360 and Slovenian funds are traditionally present there. 00:15:57.894 --> 00:16:02.254 As far as amount and investments are concerned, 00:16:02.527 --> 00:16:07.827 the trade between the countries is continually growing. 00:16:08.280 --> 00:16:13.107 Slovenian investments cover 7% 00:16:13.280 --> 00:16:17.874 of all investments in Macedonia, 00:16:17.994 --> 00:16:21.420 which puts Slovenia in the fifth place. 00:16:21.634 --> 00:16:26.060 According to statistics, cumulative receipts 00:16:26.327 --> 00:16:30.587 of foreign investments is more than 400.000 Euros, 00:16:30.794 --> 00:16:36.454 but here are more than 40 companies that have 2500 employees 00:16:36.654 --> 00:16:41.774 with wages, high than the average wage in the country. 00:16:42.027 --> 00:16:46.074 Among those are LTH Ohrid, Tab Mak, 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:49.700 investments in drinking water in Probištip 00:16:49.987 --> 00:16:55.007 and one of the best wineries in Negotino. 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:59.534 There are also cleaning plants in Štip and Negotino 00:16:59.794 --> 00:17:04.234 and investments in banking industry. 00:17:04.414 --> 00:17:08.987 We shouldn't forget that one of our biggest banks 00:17:09.247 --> 00:17:13.960 is de facto owned by Nova Ljubljanska banka. 00:17:14.467 --> 00:17:20.854 The first pension company and Nova Ljubljanska banka are cofounders 00:17:21.210 --> 00:17:25.064 of private pension funds in the Republic of Macedonia. 00:17:25.190 --> 00:17:28.470 With this, Slovenian companies are ensuring 00:17:28.737 --> 00:17:34.074 an investment and financial stability in our country for years. 00:17:34.280 --> 00:17:38.907 I have to mention also the biggest photovoltaic home base 00:17:39.047 --> 00:17:43.420 in the Republic of North Macedonia that Gen-i from Slovenia has 00:17:44.447 --> 00:17:48.000 put into use last year. 00:17:48.600 --> 00:17:52.840 I have been present at that occasion. 00:17:53.007 --> 00:17:58.780 This is very important for us because of energetic transformation. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:03.074 Mr Golob could put this investment wherever he would like to, 00:18:03.247 --> 00:18:07.400 in any other area in the region or even the world, 00:18:07.600 --> 00:18:10.980 because this is a world-renowned company. 00:18:11.180 --> 00:18:14.594 Nevertheless, they have picked out our country, 00:18:14.774 --> 00:18:18.067 because we gave them the best support and service. 00:18:18.314 --> 00:18:23.747 The North Macedonia is renowned and respected 00:18:23.867 --> 00:18:26.087 as far as foreign investments are concerned. 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:30.887 We have made a step forward with this investment 00:18:31.120 --> 00:18:34.534 towards the energetic independence, 00:18:34.860 --> 00:18:39.574 reinforcing the green economy and a higher standards of living. 00:18:39.794 --> 00:18:43.287 Today, the whole world is facing the energy crisis 00:18:43.507 --> 00:18:47.807 and the North Macedonia is ensuring clean energy 00:18:47.980 --> 00:18:53.947 which can support 5500 Macedonian households with this home base. 00:18:54.280 --> 00:19:00.227 I am happy to see that other big companies from Slovenia 00:19:01.274 --> 00:19:05.827 show interest to invest in the Republic of Macedonia. 00:19:05.980 --> 00:19:11.474 Tomorrow our Minister of Agriculture will meet with Perutnina Ptuj 00:19:11.787 --> 00:19:18.187 to explore the possibilities for potential investments in Macedonia. 00:19:18.334 --> 00:19:24.607 Our goal is to raise the trade with Slovenia to 500 million Euros. 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:29.094 At the moment it is about 300 million Euros. 00:19:29.420 --> 00:19:36.120 And also to deepen a cooperation with foreign investments. 00:19:37.254 --> 00:19:43.627 We are seeing a bigger interest of Macedonian companies 00:19:43.787 --> 00:19:46.494 to invest in Slovenia. 00:19:46.760 --> 00:19:53.567 Some brands are investing 30 million Euros, 00:19:53.734 --> 00:19:57.734 mainly in metallurgic branch. 00:19:57.927 --> 00:20:02.380 We have some investments in telecommunication, organic foods, 00:20:02.560 --> 00:20:06.420 digitalization, energetics 00:20:06.667 --> 00:20:11.454 and we have focused on direct flights between the countries. 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:14.780 We shouldn't forget that in the age of digitalization, 00:20:14.980 --> 00:20:18.560 in the updating of telecommunication in our countries, 00:20:18.774 --> 00:20:25.620 the Slovenian companies have been historically important. 00:20:26.334 --> 00:20:31.600 I am very happy that we have around 1500 students 00:20:31.840 --> 00:20:37.334 studying full-time on undergraduate and postgraduate programs 00:20:38.187 --> 00:20:41.280 in University of Ljubljana. 00:20:42.108 --> 00:20:44.999 I personally, as well as the Government, 00:20:45.120 --> 00:20:49.172 want the students to return to North Macedonia 00:20:49.293 --> 00:20:53.821 and use the knowledge they acquired here. 00:20:53.942 --> 00:20:57.184 That is why I support the initiative 00:20:57.421 --> 00:21:01.171 of the Chamber of Commerce of the Slovenian Embassy 00:21:01.292 --> 00:21:06.296 and the business club of Macedonian and Slovenian companies 00:21:06.417 --> 00:21:11.079 to open up possibilities, 00:21:11.218 --> 00:21:14.658 so that these students can apply their knowledge 00:21:14.806 --> 00:21:18.977 in the Macedonian economy. 00:21:19.098 --> 00:21:24.406 This is necessary for young people and for all our citizens. 00:21:24.527 --> 00:21:28.143 I would like to thank my dear friend Mr Golob 00:21:28.264 --> 00:21:30.564 and citizens of the Republic of Slovenia 00:21:30.685 --> 00:21:33.273 for maintaining the path towards the EU 00:21:33.394 --> 00:21:39.673 and a dynamic process to secure EU membership, 00:21:39.794 --> 00:21:45.104 because we really believe we can do it by 2030. 00:21:45.225 --> 00:21:47.462 Thank you once again to the Prime Minister, 00:21:47.583 --> 00:21:49.308 to all of you and to the ministers. 00:21:49.429 --> 00:21:52.450 We're here to answer questions. 00:21:55.927 --> 00:21:59.575 We have time for two more questions from the press. 00:21:59.696 --> 00:22:01.901 The first one will be asked 00:22:02.022 --> 00:22:07.375 by a journalist from the Macedonian National Television. Please. 00:22:17.066 --> 00:22:20.702 A question for Slovenian Prime Minister Golob. 00:22:21.210 --> 00:22:25.389 You have delivered a key message 00:22:25.510 --> 00:22:31.105 that Macedonia must not stop in the European integration process. 00:22:31.941 --> 00:22:34.896 You also spoke about external influences. 00:22:35.017 --> 00:22:40.783 How do you rate from this point of view 00:22:40.946 --> 00:22:43.208 the Euro-Atlantic route 00:22:43.329 --> 00:22:49.004 and all these forces that affect this path, 00:22:49.125 --> 00:22:52.482 how will Slovenia help Macedonia in this? 00:22:56.371 --> 00:22:59.660 First of all, I would like to emphasise 00:23:00.004 --> 00:23:03.481 that North Macedonia is part of Europe. 00:23:03.602 --> 00:23:05.602 It has always been part of Europe, 00:23:05.723 --> 00:23:09.863 now is also the time for it to become part of the European family, 00:23:09.984 --> 00:23:12.248 called the European Union. 00:23:12.477 --> 00:23:15.474 It has been waiting too long for this. 00:23:15.595 --> 00:23:20.445 Today, it's at a point where that process has finally moved. 00:23:20.566 --> 00:23:22.850 I think we all have to do everything 00:23:22.971 --> 00:23:26.614 so that this process never stops again. 00:23:26.735 --> 00:23:32.077 It is a multifaceted process and a multifaceted operation. 00:23:32.512 --> 00:23:37.010 On one side, you have your internal process, 00:23:37.468 --> 00:23:39.885 including amendments to the constitution, 00:23:40.266 --> 00:23:45.195 which you must perform in order to fulfil the conditions 00:23:45.933 --> 00:23:49.464 so that the rapprochement can continue. 00:23:50.125 --> 00:23:55.542 I believe on the one hand, that this is a demanding task, 00:23:55.706 --> 00:23:59.302 but at the same time, that reason will prevail. 00:23:59.820 --> 00:24:03.505 That all political parties in North Macedonia 00:24:03.626 --> 00:24:08.343 will understand the historic importance of this moment today 00:24:08.464 --> 00:24:13.024 and that this process must be completed as soon as possible. 00:24:13.145 --> 00:24:16.789 Just as it is foreseen in the negotiations. 00:24:17.023 --> 00:24:22.399 This is a historic occasion that has nothing to do with party affiliation. 00:24:22.520 --> 00:24:24.319 It has nothing to do with ideology, 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:28.902 but with the future of the entire Macedonian nation. 00:24:29.023 --> 00:24:31.707 I think parties have to internalise that. 00:24:31.828 --> 00:24:35.308 If Slovenia can help with this in any way 00:24:35.429 --> 00:24:41.088 with a presentation, a dialogue, we will be happy to do so. 00:24:42.557 --> 00:24:46.661 On the other hand, we have an understanding of this process 00:24:46.782 --> 00:24:50.301 and the historic importance of this moment in Brussels, 00:24:50.422 --> 00:24:52.791 among the members of the European Union. 00:24:52.912 --> 00:24:58.100 This whole time we have been clearly defending the position 00:24:58.562 --> 00:25:00.447 that the Western Balkans, 00:25:00.568 --> 00:25:05.911 North Macedonia is one of the more advanced candidates for membership, 00:25:06.032 --> 00:25:11.989 that the Western Balkans need to be stabilised especially today, 00:25:12.110 --> 00:25:14.391 otherwise they could become a source of instability 00:25:14.512 --> 00:25:17.819 for the whole of Europe. Politically stabilised. 00:25:17.940 --> 00:25:20.602 The only way to stabilise the Western Balkans 00:25:20.723 --> 00:25:25.577 is the rapprochement to the European Union. There is no other way. 00:25:25.698 --> 00:25:27.399 The Western Balkans must become 00:25:27.520 --> 00:25:30.364 an integral part of the European Union as soon as possible. 00:25:30.485 --> 00:25:32.466 This is the only way to stabilise them. 00:25:32.587 --> 00:25:37.997 Slovenia will strive for this not only by offering technical assistance, 00:25:38.118 --> 00:25:41.516 but above all by political support. 00:25:42.065 --> 00:25:44.119 We will defend the position 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:50.108 that the current negotiation process must not be stopped 00:25:51.343 --> 00:25:56.608 by introducing additional bilateral issues to the agenda. 00:25:57.677 --> 00:26:00.683 We will insist on moving forward 00:26:00.804 --> 00:26:04.727 with those processes that have already been agreed upon, 00:26:04.848 --> 00:26:06.448 amendment to the constitution, 00:26:06.569 --> 00:26:10.539 but that no additional requirements may be introduced at this time 00:26:10.660 --> 00:26:14.663 to the process of rapprochement and negotiations. 00:26:15.469 --> 00:26:18.702 This aspect is very important because, unfortunately, 00:26:18.823 --> 00:26:21.610 it has been shown in the past that many neighbours, 00:26:21.731 --> 00:26:23.605 even we had such an experience, 00:26:23.726 --> 00:26:29.019 try to blackmail the candidate member in such negotiations. 00:26:29.748 --> 00:26:32.292 We will insist that in this case, 00:26:32.413 --> 00:26:36.503 because of the increased influence of Russian propaganda in the region, 00:26:36.624 --> 00:26:39.405 we must not allow such blackmail. 00:26:40.169 --> 00:26:43.227 The European Union must not allow such blackmail. 00:26:43.348 --> 00:26:48.234 And that the timeline, even in terms of the sequence of steps, 00:26:48.355 --> 00:26:51.769 is fully respected by the European Commission. 00:26:51.890 --> 00:26:54.414 To know exactly that negotiations are one thing, 00:26:54.535 --> 00:26:57.611 while internal changes, in this case changes to the constitution, 00:26:57.732 --> 00:27:00.074 are another thing, and that we should not wait 00:27:00.195 --> 00:27:03.727 and reverse the order, but condition what must be first. 00:27:03.848 --> 00:27:07.230 This part seems important to me and I want to emphasise it. 00:27:07.351 --> 00:27:11.946 Because these are two parallel processes, 00:27:12.067 --> 00:27:16.302 and only if they really run in the right sequence of steps, 00:27:16.423 --> 00:27:19.179 the right effect can occur. 00:27:19.646 --> 00:27:23.482 I wish that, on the one hand, all the conditions will be met by November, 00:27:23.603 --> 00:27:27.617 and that in December at the European summit 00:27:27.738 --> 00:27:30.038 we will proudly state 00:27:30.592 --> 00:27:33.396 that all the conditions from the agreement have been met 00:27:33.517 --> 00:27:38.789 and that Macedonia can continue with full-fledged negotiations. 00:27:40.621 --> 00:27:43.399 Thank you very much. One last question 00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:46.202 related to today's official visit. 00:27:46.323 --> 00:27:51.501 Mrs Marta Razboršek from RTV Slovenia. 00:27:52.206 --> 00:27:55.196 A question for both Prime Ministers. 00:27:55.317 --> 00:27:57.803 There were elections in Bulgaria. 00:27:57.924 --> 00:28:01.406 How do you comment on them and do you think 00:28:01.527 --> 00:28:05.913 the Macedonian side will be able to find a common language 00:28:06.034 --> 00:28:08.170 with the future government? 00:28:08.291 --> 00:28:12.295 How specifically, Prime Minister Golob, 00:28:12.416 --> 00:28:19.602 will you help in persuading the Macedonian side? 00:28:19.723 --> 00:28:22.883 So what will Slovenia's specific help be in this regard? 00:28:23.004 --> 00:28:27.379 I have another question about your recent interview. 00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:30.278 Will the reforms continue? 00:28:30.399 --> 00:28:33.752 Does Minister Boštjančič have your support 00:28:33.873 --> 00:28:37.896 and is it true that the reconstruction of the Government is on the table? 00:28:38.017 --> 00:28:40.017 Please, go ahead. 00:28:44.041 --> 00:28:45.641 First... 00:28:48.455 --> 00:28:54.598 At the moment, Europe is in an extremely delicate 00:28:56.968 --> 00:29:01.784 and a unique geopolitical moment, 00:29:03.094 --> 00:29:10.000 from the moment when Russia launched a military attack on Ukraine. 00:29:10.121 --> 00:29:15.378 North Macedonia, as I have already said and as everyone knows, 00:29:15.499 --> 00:29:20.180 Macedonia joined the foreign policy of the European Union, 00:29:23.139 --> 00:29:27.219 and as a member of NATO it participates in supporting 00:29:27.762 --> 00:29:32.978 a democratic independent country 00:29:33.099 --> 00:29:37.415 that has been attacked by a larger neighbour. 00:29:39.094 --> 00:29:43.431 This just shows that North Macedonia is as always 00:29:44.850 --> 00:29:46.879 on the right side of history. 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.647 When it comes to relations with our neighbours, 00:29:50.768 --> 00:29:55.478 we are the Government that in the past five years 00:29:57.435 --> 00:30:02.747 closed all open issues with neighbouring countries. 00:30:02.868 --> 00:30:06.014 If you look at our relations with Albania, 00:30:06.135 --> 00:30:09.583 there are no open questions. 00:30:09.704 --> 00:30:13.266 If you look at our relations with Serbia... 00:30:13.970 --> 00:30:18.623 The last big issue between North Macedonia and Serbia 00:30:18.744 --> 00:30:22.680 has been solved by the Serbian Orthodox Church 00:30:22.801 --> 00:30:29.265 acknowledging and accepting the Macedonian Orthodox Church. 00:30:29.386 --> 00:30:34.907 This allowed the Prime Minister of Albania, the president of Serbia 00:30:35.048 --> 00:30:40.398 and myself to attend the largest fair in Italy together yesterday 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.437 as member states of the Open Balkan, 00:30:43.558 --> 00:30:48.720 which is based on the European Union's principles 00:30:48.841 --> 00:30:52.120 and whose aim is integration into the EU 00:30:52.366 --> 00:30:54.609 and economic cooperation. 00:30:54.730 --> 00:30:57.407 This would not have been possible 00:30:57.528 --> 00:31:02.087 if we wanted to attend the fair individually. 00:31:02.208 --> 00:31:06.484 Relations with Greece are also at a very high level. 00:31:06.605 --> 00:31:11.085 Here I would like to illustrate a historical timeline 00:31:11.206 --> 00:31:13.917 of the most important events. 00:31:14.215 --> 00:31:19.554 After every big national decision 00:31:19.675 --> 00:31:26.957 our country became stronger and more advanced. 00:31:27.324 --> 00:31:31.761 In 2001, when there was armed conflict in our country, 00:31:33.215 --> 00:31:40.594 our political leadership was sensible and strong enough 00:31:40.715 --> 00:31:44.308 to form the Ohrid Framework Agreement, 00:31:44.587 --> 00:31:51.040 which gave us a functional, multi-ethnic democratic state. 00:31:51.517 --> 00:31:56.595 And the state solved its internal problem. 00:31:57.869 --> 00:32:00.876 Today, the Ohrid Framework Agreement, 00:32:00.997 --> 00:32:07.970 its use and the institutions that were built based on it 00:32:08.091 --> 00:32:12.822 can be seen in the report by the United Nations Secretary-General 00:32:12.943 --> 00:32:18.344 as an example of solving open identity issues in a state. 00:32:19.740 --> 00:32:27.411 The second brave decision that was made by our political leadership, 00:32:28.473 --> 00:32:36.473 the government majority that I represent, 00:32:36.990 --> 00:32:40.193 was the Prespa Agreement. 00:32:40.529 --> 00:32:43.481 It was a very hard decision to make, 00:32:43.602 --> 00:32:46.544 but it also made Macedonia stronger. 00:32:46.665 --> 00:32:51.528 After signing the Prespa Agreement we became a member of NATO. 00:32:51.649 --> 00:32:54.653 The importance of being a NATO member 00:32:54.774 --> 00:32:58.545 can be seen today with the war in Ukraine, 00:32:58.666 --> 00:33:00.756 where Finland and Sweden, 00:33:00.877 --> 00:33:04.639 two of the most developed countries in Europe, 00:33:04.760 --> 00:33:08.332 want to become members of NATO, 00:33:08.453 --> 00:33:13.515 the largest defensive alliance in the world. 00:33:13.636 --> 00:33:16.061 This is how Macedonia 00:33:16.182 --> 00:33:19.788 became a factor of stability in the Balkans. 00:33:20.002 --> 00:33:26.620 The third big decision was accepting Europe's proposal 00:33:27.643 --> 00:33:30.314 to begin negotiations with the EU 00:33:30.435 --> 00:33:35.190 based on good neighbourly relations with Bulgaria. 00:33:35.311 --> 00:33:40.157 This also made us stronger. After 17 years of waiting 00:33:40.278 --> 00:33:44.339 North Macedonia started negotiations with the EU 00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:46.666 and the screening process. 00:33:47.710 --> 00:33:51.042 This was put on hold for 17 years 00:33:51.163 --> 00:33:55.788 because the country was led by politicians 00:33:55.909 --> 00:34:01.687 who were not brave enough to make a visionary state decision. 00:34:02.652 --> 00:34:08.176 We will accept the constitutional changes 00:34:08.297 --> 00:34:12.886 that are part of these negotiations. 00:34:13.066 --> 00:34:17.534 The country will once again be made stronger and victorious 00:34:17.655 --> 00:34:20.908 because, what will automatically follow 00:34:21.029 --> 00:34:24.619 are the second Intergovernmental Conference, 00:34:24.740 --> 00:34:27.482 opening clusters, societal reforms 00:34:27.603 --> 00:34:31.166 and fully-fledged EU membership, 00:34:31.322 --> 00:34:38.290 for which we have the support of all EU Member States. 00:34:38.411 --> 00:34:42.258 Regarding Bulgaria, our relations have actually 00:34:42.379 --> 00:34:47.628 risen to an institutional level of communication. 00:34:47.749 --> 00:34:50.526 Our governments are communicating, 00:34:50.647 --> 00:34:54.150 as are our institutions and our presidents. 00:34:54.343 --> 00:34:57.686 Looking back, a large number of issues 00:34:57.807 --> 00:35:03.225 that were important to our citizens and for coping with the crisis 00:35:03.346 --> 00:35:07.460 were solved with the Bulgarian president and government, 00:35:07.733 --> 00:35:10.123 such as gas supply, 00:35:10.244 --> 00:35:18.022 the liberalisation of the gas market, which ran across Bulgaria, 00:35:19.022 --> 00:35:23.608 and the smooth functioning of cross-border capacities 00:35:23.804 --> 00:35:27.940 for supplying electricity during the whole winter, 00:35:28.061 --> 00:35:30.999 when we had an electricity shortage. 00:35:31.381 --> 00:35:35.537 We came to all these agreements and they were all honoured, 00:35:35.658 --> 00:35:38.529 and we cooperated in other areas as well. 00:35:38.650 --> 00:35:43.372 The problem was that Bulgaria had no political government 00:35:43.493 --> 00:35:45.767 but a technical government. 00:35:45.888 --> 00:35:50.538 Their election concluded yesterday. As their neighbours 00:35:50.659 --> 00:35:54.505 we want Bulgaria to have a political government 00:35:54.626 --> 00:35:56.883 that would completely comply 00:35:57.368 --> 00:36:01.734 with the values and principles of the European Union 00:36:01.855 --> 00:36:06.275 and the principle of expansion of the European Union, 00:36:06.626 --> 00:36:10.321 and we hope that it will build good relations 00:36:10.442 --> 00:36:15.690 with all of its neighbours, as it did with our country. 00:36:15.892 --> 00:36:21.554 We hope that such a European government in Bulgaria will, 00:36:21.675 --> 00:36:24.765 like Slovenia and ourselves, 00:36:25.543 --> 00:36:28.831 support the whole of the Western Balkans 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.192 and strive for its accession to the EU, 00:36:32.313 --> 00:36:34.817 because that is the only option 00:36:34.938 --> 00:36:40.109 for the prosperity and stability of these countries. Thank you. 00:36:44.523 --> 00:36:48.179 It is good that the election in Bulgaria has passed. 00:36:48.300 --> 00:36:52.481 As we know, pre-election times can be inappropriate 00:36:52.602 --> 00:36:55.090 for solving such issues. 00:36:56.504 --> 00:37:00.996 As of yet there is still no government in Bulgaria, 00:37:01.652 --> 00:37:06.113 but we will have a dialogue with whatever government is elected 00:37:06.234 --> 00:37:10.957 and the sole topic will be the importance of European integrations. 00:37:12.782 --> 00:37:15.539 Bulgaria is already aware of this, 00:37:15.769 --> 00:37:18.704 as it is striving to enter Schengen. 00:37:20.274 --> 00:37:23.789 And as a country that knows what it is like 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:28.806 to be excluded from the process of further integration 00:37:29.758 --> 00:37:31.930 when it is entitled to it, 00:37:32.051 --> 00:37:36.305 I believe it will be sympathetic to North Macedonia. 00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:40.104 I think the message is clear 00:37:40.225 --> 00:37:44.999 that there is no other way for Bulgaria and North Macedonia. 00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:49.058 The process is one and the same, not two different ones, 00:37:49.179 --> 00:37:52.910 simply because one may now be ahead. 00:37:54.134 --> 00:37:57.720 This will be our discourse in Brussels. 00:37:59.251 --> 00:38:04.102 Regarding the other things, the North Macedonian government 00:38:04.223 --> 00:38:07.570 informed us of something important today. 00:38:07.691 --> 00:38:11.286 They told us that the constitutional changes 00:38:11.407 --> 00:38:17.204 that are expected by the EU as per the agreement are a positive thing. 00:38:18.224 --> 00:38:21.608 They are good for the further development 00:38:21.729 --> 00:38:26.067 of the position of the minorities in North Macedonia. 00:38:27.318 --> 00:38:29.739 Or rather parts of the nation, 00:38:29.860 --> 00:38:34.622 as it is being expressly formalised in their constitution. 00:38:35.193 --> 00:38:39.770 They also told us that they have one of the most advanced systems 00:38:39.891 --> 00:38:43.677 for strengthening and protecting minorities in Europe. 00:38:44.357 --> 00:38:47.364 We will gladly share this information 00:38:47.485 --> 00:38:52.794 in all European integrations precisely for this very purpose, 00:38:53.810 --> 00:38:56.314 namely that North Macedonia has been 00:38:56.435 --> 00:38:59.314 one of the most progressive countries 00:38:59.877 --> 00:39:03.077 and that it intends to stay on this path, 00:39:03.908 --> 00:39:10.826 and that with its fully-fledged accession to the EU 00:39:10.947 --> 00:39:15.994 these minorities will receive access to their home countries. 00:39:16.556 --> 00:39:20.190 Whoever wants to protect their minorities 00:39:20.549 --> 00:39:26.386 will support North Macedonia on its path to Euro-Atlantic Integrations. 00:39:26.635 --> 00:39:29.385 I think this is a clear conclusion 00:39:29.506 --> 00:39:33.189 and that there is only optimism on this path. 00:39:33.415 --> 00:39:35.282 I believe everyone will see 00:39:35.403 --> 00:39:38.415 that this is the only way for them as well. 00:39:39.174 --> 00:39:42.470 We will speak more of domestic policy tomorrow, 00:39:42.591 --> 00:39:45.884 but I will reiterate that the healthcare reform 00:39:46.005 --> 00:39:47.868 is key to this government, 00:39:47.989 --> 00:39:52.486 and in the coming months we will talk about it daily, if needed. 00:39:52.705 --> 00:39:58.038 We want to show the first results of our activities in this area 00:39:58.392 --> 00:40:01.470 and we will present them this week. 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:05.398 There will be time enough for everything else 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.687 and Minister Klemenčič ... 00:40:09.515 --> 00:40:13.773 I'm kidding, that's what we call Minister Klemen Boštjančič. 00:40:13.894 --> 00:40:16.265 He still has all our support. 00:40:16.386 --> 00:40:20.859 We cleared this up last week, so, for me, this issue is closed. 00:40:21.249 --> 00:40:24.170 I have nothing to add to this today, 00:40:24.291 --> 00:40:27.382 nor will I have in a month. Thank you. 00:40:27.503 --> 00:40:32.234 And the reconstruction? -We aren't discussing other things yet. 00:40:32.742 --> 00:40:36.790 Journalists may ask about it, but I have nothing to add. 00:40:37.609 --> 00:40:41.109 Thank you, the press conference is thus concluded. 00:40:41.230 --> 00:40:45.422 Thank you for your attention, have a nice day.