WEBVTT 00:00:01.445 --> 00:00:03.046 Esteemed journalists, 00:00:03.167 --> 00:00:06.437 other media representatives and everyone watching, 00:00:06.558 --> 00:00:08.906 welcome to today's press conference, 00:00:09.027 --> 00:00:12.703 where we will present the decrees the government adopted 00:00:12.824 --> 00:00:15.348 at yesterday's correspondence session. 00:00:15.469 --> 00:00:17.457 We are joined by Bojan Kumer, 00:00:17.578 --> 00:00:20.925 Minister of the Environment, Climate and Energy, 00:00:21.046 --> 00:00:23.972 Igor Glušič, director of Komunala Trbovlje, 00:00:24.093 --> 00:00:27.328 and Boris Novak, director of Energetika Maribor. 00:00:27.449 --> 00:00:31.132 Minister, please explain to your counterparts 00:00:31.253 --> 00:00:35.807 what these decrees mean for the bills of individual households. 00:00:36.597 --> 00:00:42.204 Thank you. As you said, there was a correspondence session yesterday 00:00:42.325 --> 00:00:45.445 where the government acted very quickly. 00:00:45.598 --> 00:00:51.552 The government had already adopted measures 00:00:51.911 --> 00:00:55.325 long ago, on October 27th. 00:00:55.699 --> 00:01:00.519 The government capped the price of natural gas, 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.732 believing that this would have a sufficient effect 00:01:04.853 --> 00:01:10.125 on final retail prices of heating of district heating companies. 00:01:10.486 --> 00:01:13.763 We also wanted to divide part of the burden 00:01:13.884 --> 00:01:16.651 among the district heating systems 00:01:16.772 --> 00:01:21.189 and local administrations or rather municipalities. 00:01:21.455 --> 00:01:25.064 We largely succeeded. 00:01:25.385 --> 00:01:33.125 Prices of heating are competitive, capped and affordable. 00:01:33.369 --> 00:01:37.611 However, the district heating companies of Trbovlje, Maribor 00:01:37.732 --> 00:01:40.149 Nova Gorica and Ravne na Koroškem 00:01:40.430 --> 00:01:44.752 had made a number of decisions in the past 00:01:45.173 --> 00:01:48.541 that made this measure insufficient. 00:01:48.846 --> 00:01:53.205 That is why we needed to act further. 00:01:53.564 --> 00:01:56.734 We were alerted by our colleagues last week 00:01:56.898 --> 00:02:00.814 during the meeting on the analysis of the situtation. 00:02:01.123 --> 00:02:03.701 We prepared a decree over the weekend 00:02:03.951 --> 00:02:08.873 so we could quickly and efficiently provide affordable heating 00:02:08.994 --> 00:02:12.405 to the residents of those parts of Slovenia. 00:02:12.741 --> 00:02:15.740 The goal of this government had always been 00:02:15.861 --> 00:02:17.940 to act quickly and efficiently 00:02:18.061 --> 00:02:21.784 and to cap heating prices before and during winter. 00:02:22.008 --> 00:02:24.658 The decree that was adopted yesterday 00:02:24.779 --> 00:02:28.227 caps the variable part of the prices of heating 00:02:28.348 --> 00:02:32.603 and also prevents the transfer of costs 00:02:32.724 --> 00:02:38.258 to the fixed parts of other rates of other consumer groups. 00:02:38.552 --> 00:02:44.646 It caps the price upwards, to 98,7 EUR per megawatt hour. 00:02:45.021 --> 00:02:47.966 There are a few district heating companies 00:02:48.087 --> 00:02:50.742 in addition to the aforementioned ones 00:02:50.863 --> 00:02:53.531 that are still a bit above this limit. 00:02:54.282 --> 00:02:59.633 The average prices of all district heating companies in Slovenia 00:02:59.797 --> 00:03:03.836 range from 45 to 160 EUR per megawatt hour. 00:03:04.157 --> 00:03:08.101 So the government's measure lands in the lower half. 00:03:10.086 --> 00:03:11.831 I also have to point out 00:03:11.952 --> 00:03:15.948 that this decree came into effect on January 1st 2023. 00:03:16.069 --> 00:03:18.221 Bills have not been issued yet. 00:03:18.342 --> 00:03:21.749 In accordance with our agreement with both directors 00:03:21.870 --> 00:03:25.065 and the president of the district heating section 00:03:25.186 --> 00:03:28.034 the other companies will also adapt 00:03:28.155 --> 00:03:31.503 and comply with the measures and this decree. 00:03:31.772 --> 00:03:37.218 We are also additionally appealing to the management, 00:03:37.465 --> 00:03:40.910 in this case director Novak of Energetika Maribor 00:03:41.137 --> 00:03:45.183 and director Glušič of Komunala Trbovlje, 00:03:45.527 --> 00:03:49.887 to come up with their own programs for vulnerable groups 00:03:50.059 --> 00:03:54.137 that either have poorly insulated homes 00:03:54.363 --> 00:03:57.206 or cannot afford the higher costs. 00:03:57.434 --> 00:04:01.392 So, we are appealing to them for these programs 00:04:01.566 --> 00:04:05.089 and to municipalites to help with this, 00:04:05.223 --> 00:04:08.086 as other municipalities have helped 00:04:08.207 --> 00:04:10.910 complement government measures. 00:04:12.918 --> 00:04:17.500 It is also important to note that this decree addressed 00:04:17.621 --> 00:04:22.621 the price of heating for all users this winter. 00:04:22.965 --> 00:04:26.574 The decree will be in force until April 30th. 00:04:27.644 --> 00:04:32.221 I hope we can prepare for next winter in time 00:04:32.939 --> 00:04:40.041 so that such upward capping will not be as necessary next year. 00:04:41.509 --> 00:04:44.796 That is all for now. -Then there was the decree 00:04:44.917 --> 00:04:48.413 on the subsidies for the purchase of wood pellets. 00:04:48.534 --> 00:04:52.425 How did you intend for this to help the public? 00:04:53.922 --> 00:04:57.391 We also adopted this decree yesterday. 00:04:57.594 --> 00:05:00.843 It is an implementing act 00:05:00.964 --> 00:05:04.324 based on the Act on Intervention Measures, 00:05:04.722 --> 00:05:11.125 so that the economic public service Borzen d.o.o. 00:05:11.292 --> 00:05:16.725 can pay out subsidies for wood pellets to natural persons, 00:05:16.980 --> 00:05:21.065 so that everyone who purchased wood pellets for heating 00:05:21.269 --> 00:05:25.933 from September 1st to December 31st 2022 00:05:26.152 --> 00:05:29.667 can have part of their expenses reimbursed. 00:05:29.871 --> 00:05:34.449 We standardised this appropriately in the Act. 00:05:34.696 --> 00:05:37.901 In the decree that we adopted yesterday 00:05:38.128 --> 00:05:40.636 we also set the payment method, 00:05:40.757 --> 00:05:45.276 we set more detailed conditions regarding proof of payment 00:05:45.397 --> 00:05:49.667 that claimants need to present in their application, 00:05:49.788 --> 00:05:54.659 and we defined the content of the online application in more detail. 00:05:54.816 --> 00:06:00.261 I am glad that the economic public service Borzen 00:06:00.503 --> 00:06:04.863 swiftly created a completely digital process 00:06:05.167 --> 00:06:09.035 that will be quick and more effective. 00:06:09.236 --> 00:06:17.188 We also ensured that users who are less versed in digital and IT skills 00:06:17.469 --> 00:06:22.792 can also submit their applications in the regular manner. 00:06:24.594 --> 00:06:28.327 Borzen has one month from the adoption of the decree, 00:06:28.448 --> 00:06:32.233 which was published in the Official Journal yesterday, 00:06:32.354 --> 00:06:38.694 to prepare this application and the conditions for claimants. 00:06:39.311 --> 00:06:41.600 Thank you. I invite to the podium 00:06:41.721 --> 00:06:45.014 Mr. Igor Glušič, director of Komunala Trbovlje, 00:06:45.135 --> 00:06:48.803 where the residents were most upset about the bills. 00:06:48.991 --> 00:06:51.795 Let us reassure them with this measure. 00:06:52.218 --> 00:06:57.636 I was already faced with extremely high heating prices in Trbovlje 00:06:57.757 --> 00:07:00.392 in the middle of last year. 00:07:01.419 --> 00:07:05.708 In the past five months we have used strong measures 00:07:05.829 --> 00:07:09.255 in order to lower the price of heating. 00:07:09.623 --> 00:07:13.771 I would first like to thank the Minister and the government 00:07:13.892 --> 00:07:17.814 for quickly addressing the real problems 00:07:17.935 --> 00:07:21.209 that our users face in their households 00:07:21.330 --> 00:07:25.334 and found a solution that will benefit everyone. 00:07:25.880 --> 00:07:28.972 We conduct all mandatory and optional 00:07:29.093 --> 00:07:32.193 economic public services In Trbovlje. 00:07:32.388 --> 00:07:37.343 This means that, in addition to the costs of heating and hot water, 00:07:37.472 --> 00:07:41.247 citizens also receive a bill for all other services, 00:07:41.520 --> 00:07:45.387 which comprise a large portion of the invoice. 00:07:46.175 --> 00:07:48.326 Due to the market conditions 00:07:48.447 --> 00:07:51.908 and the positive effects caused by the decree, 00:07:52.029 --> 00:07:54.253 or rather the government act 00:07:54.374 --> 00:07:57.971 that capped the price of gas for households, 00:07:58.092 --> 00:08:00.010 we announced in January 00:08:00.131 --> 00:08:04.051 that we can further reduce the price of heating. 00:08:04.336 --> 00:08:09.292 Despite this, we saw that the citizens' bills will be higher 00:08:09.413 --> 00:08:11.585 due to lower temperatures. 00:08:11.821 --> 00:08:16.142 That is why we promised an additional 15 % discount 00:08:16.263 --> 00:08:20.675 on heating in January for all households in Trbovlje 00:08:20.796 --> 00:08:25.890 and we will do so regardless of the government's decree. 00:08:26.483 --> 00:08:30.420 Of the approximately 4000 households in Trbovlje 00:08:30.541 --> 00:08:34.936 that we provide heating services to, 00:08:35.397 --> 00:08:41.475 about 87 % of all households pay up to 200 EUR per month 00:08:41.764 --> 00:08:46.499 for heating and hot water services. 00:08:46.944 --> 00:08:51.758 It was said that there are users with exceptionally high bills, 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:55.392 over 300 or 400 EUR. These comprise about 2 %. 00:08:55.786 --> 00:09:00.622 Together with the municipality, who we work with very well, 00:09:00.743 --> 00:09:04.187 we will address them and we are appealing to them 00:09:04.308 --> 00:09:07.317 to turn to us and the municipality for aid. 00:09:07.492 --> 00:09:11.621 For nonrefundable aid for socially vulnerable groups 00:09:11.816 --> 00:09:14.870 and for payment in installments 00:09:14.991 --> 00:09:18.988 for those who cannot pay in such a short time. 00:09:20.409 --> 00:09:24.719 We estimate that the government measure 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:30.092 will reduce the cost of heating by approximately 34 EUR 00:09:30.213 --> 00:09:36.360 for a 70 m2 three-person apartment in an insulated building. 00:09:37.012 --> 00:09:41.762 I also have to say that most users in Trbovlje 00:09:42.192 --> 00:09:45.598 use both heating and hot water services. 00:09:45.761 --> 00:09:48.738 Both of these together create costs 00:09:48.859 --> 00:09:54.293 that citizens find hard to cope with in the current situation. 00:09:54.538 --> 00:09:59.116 Again, we appeal to the citizens to turn to the municipality 00:09:59.319 --> 00:10:04.437 the mechanisms that the municipality provides, 00:10:04.694 --> 00:10:07.792 and to turn to us as well for aid. 00:10:08.124 --> 00:10:12.046 In the coming period we will also provide advice 00:10:12.167 --> 00:10:14.085 on what citizens can do 00:10:14.206 --> 00:10:18.569 to lower the costs of heating in apartment buildings, 00:10:18.690 --> 00:10:21.871 where the costs depend on multiple users. 00:10:22.043 --> 00:10:25.039 Thank you. How will it be in Maribor? 00:10:25.300 --> 00:10:30.213 The CEO of Energetika Maribor will tell us what the prices will be. 00:10:30.333 --> 00:10:34.761 Thank you. First, I want to say 00:10:34.881 --> 00:10:37.658 that the decree means two things. 00:10:38.340 --> 00:10:42.672 Firstly, the Government of the Republic of Slovenia 00:10:42.940 --> 00:10:47.048 and the Ministry of Inftrastructure 00:10:47.168 --> 00:10:52.892 that is now called differently, followed our suggestions 00:10:53.573 --> 00:10:57.392 about the problems we mentioned in Maribor. 00:10:57.683 --> 00:11:03.374 They showed that the government and the ministry respond 00:11:03.494 --> 00:11:07.192 to our specific problems. 00:11:07.561 --> 00:11:13.325 And secondly, the decree that was passed yesterday means 00:11:13.913 --> 00:11:18.758 that for a 53m2 big apartment in Maribor, 00:11:18.878 --> 00:11:23.192 the heating price without this intervention would be €145 00:11:23.365 --> 00:11:28.655 and now, it will be €109. For a 69m2 big apartment, 00:11:28.775 --> 00:11:32.671 the price before was € 185.90 00:11:32.791 --> 00:11:36.925 and now, it will be €140. There is quite a big difference. 00:11:37.302 --> 00:11:41.058 We believe we will keep cooperating with the government 00:11:41.178 --> 00:11:47.805 and we will successfully overcome all the challenges. 00:11:47.925 --> 00:11:52.344 Thank you. -Thank you. I invite journalists being with us online 00:11:52.464 --> 00:11:56.525 because they aren't here, to raise their hand if they want a word 00:11:56.737 --> 00:11:59.725 and ask their question. I will ask you to do it. 00:12:00.008 --> 00:12:05.525 Ema Čepon of Pop TV is trying to log in. She has a word. 00:12:11.319 --> 00:12:14.492 We can't hear you. -Can you hear me? 00:12:14.612 --> 00:12:18.842 Yes. Go ahead. -Thank you. I have two questions. 00:12:18.962 --> 00:12:24.294 The first one is about schools and kindergartens. 00:12:25.352 --> 00:12:29.391 Some municipalities are saying 00:12:29.511 --> 00:12:33.500 that parents will have to pay the heating. 00:12:33.620 --> 00:12:36.697 The municipalities can't pay it alone. 00:12:37.309 --> 00:12:42.027 What measures will you pass? Are you preparing something? 00:12:42.669 --> 00:12:46.092 The second question is also for the minister. 00:12:46.969 --> 00:12:49.938 How has the work changed at the new ministry, 00:12:50.058 --> 00:12:53.692 what does it mean logistically, how many people will be moved? 00:12:54.436 --> 00:13:00.322 Do you have any information about how many people will be employed 00:13:00.481 --> 00:13:03.525 at the ministry and what will the budget be? 00:13:05.035 --> 00:13:09.206 Thank you. First, I will answer the last question. 00:13:10.106 --> 00:13:15.084 Yesterday, the parliament completed 00:13:15.204 --> 00:13:18.492 the reconstruction of the government. 00:13:19.385 --> 00:13:22.425 It will take some time, 00:13:22.583 --> 00:13:27.692 a week, maybe a month, to amend the budget. 00:13:28.085 --> 00:13:33.458 I want to stick to the today's topic 00:13:34.124 --> 00:13:39.292 and come back to these questions later, 00:13:39.412 --> 00:13:42.017 when we will have the information about the budget 00:13:42.138 --> 00:13:46.026 of the new and reorganised ministries. 00:13:46.146 --> 00:13:52.025 The number of employees changes almost daily. 00:13:52.433 --> 00:13:56.673 I want to thank the ministers with whom we share our tasks 00:13:56.793 --> 00:14:03.219 for a respectful dialogue. Changes are a part of life 00:14:03.339 --> 00:14:07.312 and if we want a modern government, 00:14:07.432 --> 00:14:09.796 we have to follow modern guidelines. 00:14:09.916 --> 00:14:12.463 Slovenia now has the ministry for climate change 00:14:12.583 --> 00:14:15.892 and can start shaping climate policies. 00:14:16.581 --> 00:14:20.168 To the first question, I can say 00:14:20.288 --> 00:14:26.992 that the second part of the cost of living crisis 00:14:27.112 --> 00:14:31.725 from last year is to equate schools, kindergartens 00:14:31.845 --> 00:14:35.423 and other protected consumers that get the heating 00:14:35.543 --> 00:14:38.828 from individual devices, 00:14:38.948 --> 00:14:42.792 which means gas, or district heating. 00:14:42.966 --> 00:14:46.444 We are coordinating 00:14:46.564 --> 00:14:49.259 and working with the Office for legislation 00:14:49.379 --> 00:14:52.543 and the Ministry of Finance to amend the decree 00:14:52.663 --> 00:14:57.342 where we would limit gas prices 00:14:57.462 --> 00:15:02.258 for schools and kindergartens to €79/MWh. 00:15:02.510 --> 00:15:07.719 I hope the government will discuss it tomorrow 00:15:07.839 --> 00:15:11.838 or maybe in a couple of days 00:15:12.247 --> 00:15:18.248 and pass it. With it, all the consumers will be equated 00:15:18.368 --> 00:15:20.892 and treated equally. 00:15:22.006 --> 00:15:27.250 This was also the wish of all remote heating systems CEOs, 00:15:27.371 --> 00:15:30.710 for all such customers to be treated in the same way. 00:15:30.831 --> 00:15:34.465 We will soon adopt this part of the regulation as well. 00:15:34.586 --> 00:15:40.601 Thank you very much. Next is Dejan Rat, Radio Maribor. 00:15:41.499 --> 00:15:46.395 Hello. My first question is for the Minister. 00:15:46.516 --> 00:15:53.053 The Government limited the price to €98.70. With or without VAT? 00:15:57.901 --> 00:16:00.706 Without VAT. This is the net price. 00:16:00.902 --> 00:16:05.460 As you know, both CEOs emphasised 00:16:05.615 --> 00:16:11.109 that the variable heat price is only one of the items on the bill. 00:16:11.289 --> 00:16:16.467 Remote heating systems are arranged differently, 00:16:16.588 --> 00:16:21.123 therefore, at the end, VAT is added to all these items. 00:16:22.535 --> 00:16:24.997 Do you have a sub-question, Mr Dejan? 00:16:25.118 --> 00:16:30.680 On the Energetika Maribor website, all prices include VAT, 00:16:30.801 --> 00:16:36.795 so that people will have a better idea if they do the calculations. 00:16:36.916 --> 00:16:42.068 Another question for the Minister and the CEO of Energetika Maribor. 00:16:42.189 --> 00:16:44.106 What does this gap mean? 00:16:44.227 --> 00:16:48.478 In Maribor, the announced price was a little less than €150, 00:16:48.599 --> 00:16:51.771 now the price is €98.70. 00:16:51.892 --> 00:16:55.079 Who will cover the difference and how? 00:16:55.595 --> 00:17:03.189 I am sure that my colleagues in the individual energy departments 00:17:03.310 --> 00:17:09.207 will correct the information on the websites. 00:17:09.497 --> 00:17:13.800 The key here is that both CEOs talked about the amount of the bill. 00:17:13.921 --> 00:17:17.150 That's what counts in the end. 00:17:17.401 --> 00:17:20.198 As for your question, I can say 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:25.996 that the Government must supplement the reimbursement regulation. 00:17:26.176 --> 00:17:29.588 We will have to return the negative difference 00:17:29.709 --> 00:17:34.522 which will be caused to individual remote heating systems. 00:17:34.726 --> 00:17:37.144 These analyses are ongoing. 00:17:37.389 --> 00:17:41.499 I must praise the Energy Agency, which cooperated constructively. 00:17:41.620 --> 00:17:45.835 They performed analyses over the weekend, 00:17:46.011 --> 00:17:48.496 so that we could calculate accurately. 00:17:48.617 --> 00:17:50.617 I'm happy... 00:17:50.902 --> 00:17:54.048 First, remote heating systems will have to demonstrate precisely 00:17:54.169 --> 00:17:57.120 what is the negative difference and why. 00:17:57.241 --> 00:18:01.867 If they can prove it, the Government will refund them the difference. 00:18:01.988 --> 00:18:04.799 I give the floor... -Go ahead. 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.402 As said, the regulation was passed yesterday, 00:18:07.523 --> 00:18:10.165 new calculations are still being made. 00:18:10.286 --> 00:18:14.704 Corrections will also be published on the Energetika Maribor website. 00:18:14.825 --> 00:18:17.611 A calculator that is informational in nature 00:18:18.010 --> 00:18:21.190 will also be usable with new data. 00:18:21.484 --> 00:18:24.067 We should point out 00:18:24.188 --> 00:18:28.113 that the Government of the Republic of Slovenia or the Ministry 00:18:28.234 --> 00:18:35.501 is not the institution we could turn to for all problems. 00:18:35.789 --> 00:18:41.458 With financial optimisation and efficient operations 00:18:41.579 --> 00:18:43.965 we will have to shoulder some of this burden, 00:18:44.086 --> 00:18:48.219 which is also represented by the social distress of some in Maribor. 00:18:48.340 --> 00:18:50.340 Thank you very much. 00:18:50.670 --> 00:18:53.170 Any more questions, Mr Dejan? 00:18:53.529 --> 00:18:55.985 I would like to ask Mr Novak. 00:18:56.106 --> 00:18:59.670 Information for residents of Maribor. 00:18:59.791 --> 00:19:05.971 How much of a percentage increase will there be based on these numbers? 00:19:07.398 --> 00:19:11.539 Compared to the bill... 00:19:11.660 --> 00:19:14.305 If we did not adopt the regulation, 00:19:14.426 --> 00:19:20.012 this increase would be 63% compared to December 2022. 00:19:20.233 --> 00:19:23.902 Now the amount will increase by 22%. 00:19:24.118 --> 00:19:30.954 We will make and announce the final calculations by the end of this week. 00:19:31.855 --> 00:19:35.620 Thank you very much. Ema Čepon, Pop TV. 00:19:40.204 --> 00:19:45.361 Regarding wood pellets. You say part of the cost will be reimbursed. 00:19:45.482 --> 00:19:52.344 How will it be determined who is entitled to reimbursement? 00:19:53.710 --> 00:19:58.100 The application for reimbursement eligibility 00:19:58.221 --> 00:20:01.693 will have to contain at least two supporting documents. 00:20:01.814 --> 00:20:06.512 The beneficiary will have to prove the installation of the device 00:20:06.767 --> 00:20:11.950 and provide a bill 00:20:12.145 --> 00:20:18.405 which must be dated for the period defined in the law. 00:20:18.526 --> 00:20:21.657 From September 1 to December 31. 00:20:21.778 --> 00:20:27.382 In addition to all other personal data, address, etc. 00:20:29.365 --> 00:20:34.177 No more questions. Thank you and have a nice day. Goodbye. 00:20:34.298 --> 00:20:36.298 Thank you very much.