WEBVTT 00:00:00.227 --> 00:00:03.406 Hello. This room is almost as full as it was 00:00:03.593 --> 00:00:07.060 when we had those students here before the election. 00:00:07.181 --> 00:00:10.103 It's nice to see this. I'll make more jokes 00:00:10.297 --> 00:00:14.790 because you're all tense and this will have a happy ending. 00:00:21.163 --> 00:00:24.983 If you follow politics, you'll know that when we started, 00:00:25.104 --> 00:00:29.016 we said we were going to need two terms to fix the country. 00:00:29.197 --> 00:00:32.223 We didn't consider your impatience back then. 00:00:32.383 --> 00:00:35.596 We've now experienced what it means when people 00:00:35.717 --> 00:00:38.880 are waiting reforms for 30 years, since '95. 00:00:39.097 --> 00:00:42.856 We know we'll have two terms but we won't have anything 00:00:42.977 --> 00:00:47.416 left to do because you'll be satisfied with our reforms. 00:00:47.683 --> 00:00:51.876 I'm kidding, but there's a lot of truth to this. 00:00:52.050 --> 00:00:55.049 All kidding aside, 00:00:55.317 --> 00:00:59.443 I'm not a judge, as you've figured out. I'm just an engineer. 00:00:59.610 --> 00:01:03.216 I'm puzzled that you had a lawyer as a Prime Minister 00:01:03.390 --> 00:01:05.683 and that he did nothing for you. 00:01:05.823 --> 00:01:09.550 I wonder about your collegial responsibility back then, 00:01:09.670 --> 00:01:13.150 but we engineers enjoy tough challenges, so thank you 00:01:13.271 --> 00:01:17.430 for the invitation. I would like to point out 00:01:17.603 --> 00:01:23.000 that I'm a layman. Before I entered politics, I believed 00:01:23.523 --> 00:01:26.970 that the judiciary is the third branch of government 00:01:27.150 --> 00:01:31.316 and that it's independent. That's the perception of laypeople. 00:01:31.437 --> 00:01:34.690 Apparently, the Constitution says the same thing. 00:01:34.823 --> 00:01:38.396 I was faced with reality at a friendly lunch 00:01:38.577 --> 00:01:40.843 that didn't end all that amicably. 00:01:40.950 --> 00:01:44.823 I wasn't there to tackle the independence of the judiciary, 00:01:45.010 --> 00:01:48.963 but I realized that this independence exists only on paper. 00:01:49.084 --> 00:01:52.530 You have no independence when it comes to appointing 00:01:52.683 --> 00:01:56.163 your highest representatives, and you have even less 00:01:56.277 --> 00:02:01.200 independence in monetary matters. 00:02:01.790 --> 00:02:04.936 I thought about this and realized that even 00:02:05.117 --> 00:02:09.750 in the judiciary, things aren't how they are portrayed to the public. 00:02:09.910 --> 00:02:14.170 In the meantime, I realized that it's the same in every sector. 00:02:14.363 --> 00:02:18.470 We apparently live in illusions about how things ought to be, 00:02:18.591 --> 00:02:22.816 while the real-life situation in our country is very different. 00:02:22.997 --> 00:02:26.950 We're now in 2023, but even back in October, 00:02:27.057 --> 00:02:30.723 I said this was going to be a year of reform. 00:02:30.983 --> 00:02:33.696 And we will carry out reforms in 2023, 00:02:33.876 --> 00:02:37.703 including wage system reforms. This can't be excluded 00:02:37.824 --> 00:02:41.410 from other reforms because if we wish to organize 00:02:41.531 --> 00:02:44.956 the country, we have to tackle all this at once. 00:02:45.143 --> 00:02:49.616 This year will also be a year of reforms for the judiciary. 00:02:49.990 --> 00:02:56.310 We'll have reforms ensuring the autonomy of the judiciary, 00:02:56.677 --> 00:02:59.750 regarding terms and appointments, 00:02:59.923 --> 00:03:04.116 but we'll also reform the operations of the judicial system, 00:03:04.317 --> 00:03:06.776 and I hope it'll only get better. 00:03:06.957 --> 00:03:09.923 But we'll start with wage system reform, 00:03:10.070 --> 00:03:14.056 which needs to be a part of broader reforms 00:03:14.203 --> 00:03:16.496 of the wage system. 00:03:16.850 --> 00:03:20.496 We're not done. The happy ending is coming. 00:03:24.043 --> 00:03:27.936 If we don't carry out reform of the wage system 00:03:28.057 --> 00:03:31.720 in an appropriate manner, any measure we adopt today 00:03:31.910 --> 00:03:36.343 can only be temporary. It may last a year or two, 00:03:36.477 --> 00:03:40.056 but we'll then have a repeat of the current situation. 00:03:40.243 --> 00:03:46.603 And what is that situation? In the last... let's say since 2008, 00:03:46.837 --> 00:03:50.176 your real wages have declined five percent. 00:03:51.863 --> 00:03:57.323 Real wages. Since 2008. 00:03:58.643 --> 00:04:02.436 Those are your average wages, not the base. 00:04:02.557 --> 00:04:06.910 In the same period, the real wages of others in the public sector 00:04:07.031 --> 00:04:08.631 have risen by 15%. 00:04:08.997 --> 00:04:11.923 The difference is 20%. 00:04:12.037 --> 00:04:17.960 We can all be puzzled by this. You can be angry. 00:04:18.557 --> 00:04:22.510 It's always good to express your feelings because repressed 00:04:22.663 --> 00:04:26.663 emotions won't do you any good. But these are the facts. 00:04:26.823 --> 00:04:30.723 We're aware of these facts, and wouldn't you know it, 00:04:30.850 --> 00:04:34.330 these facts aren't true just for you. They are true 00:04:34.510 --> 00:04:38.970 for all officials. I'm also mystified why we haven't had 00:04:39.091 --> 00:04:43.389 any smarter Prime Ministers. Perhaps that's because of the pay. 00:04:43.557 --> 00:04:46.123 There could be a connection. 00:04:46.790 --> 00:04:51.503 I understand you, and I even share your destiny in a way, 00:04:51.624 --> 00:04:53.843 symbolically, if you will. 00:04:53.964 --> 00:04:56.943 But let's not just talk about symbolism. 00:04:57.457 --> 00:05:05.376 Reform is coming. Yes, we may need three or four more months. 00:05:06.017 --> 00:05:09.190 We need to build the foundation for the courts 00:05:09.357 --> 00:05:14.863 and the judicial system. This will be up to negotiations. I believe 00:05:15.043 --> 00:05:19.470 we can find the best solution together. 00:05:20.677 --> 00:05:25.195 You may think I'm just making promises and you may be wondering 00:05:25.316 --> 00:05:29.156 about the happy ending, so I decided to do something else 00:05:29.310 --> 00:05:32.343 to show how serious we are. 00:05:32.503 --> 00:05:39.243 We decided that on January 1, and not June 1, 00:05:39.877 --> 00:05:43.436 we'll approve a pay bonus for everyone. 00:05:43.577 --> 00:05:47.995 We won't name it because we don't wish to preordain the character 00:05:48.116 --> 00:05:51.809 of our reform, so we'll call it a bonus. All officials 00:05:51.943 --> 00:05:57.236 in the judicial branch will receive this bonus. 00:05:57.430 --> 00:06:01.876 Everyone will get the same amount, not a percentage. 00:06:02.050 --> 00:06:05.289 That's €600 gross a month starting January 1. 00:06:06.417 --> 00:06:09.223 The purpose is clear. 00:06:09.417 --> 00:06:15.549 We'd like to increase the base... This is a temporary measure. 00:06:16.230 --> 00:06:20.043 We don't want to take it back when the reform is ready. 00:06:20.197 --> 00:06:23.463 We want it to be the foundation of our reforms. 00:06:23.643 --> 00:06:28.149 Those who are older will naturally get less in percentage terms, 00:06:28.323 --> 00:06:34.596 but we feel it's right that we first address those who are paid least. 00:06:35.763 --> 00:06:39.963 We want this bonus to be a clear indication of where we intend 00:06:40.123 --> 00:06:45.560 to start later on. If you'd like a calculation, I can make one. 00:06:45.757 --> 00:06:49.883 The average monthly wage in the judiciary is €4000 gross, 00:06:50.030 --> 00:06:53.749 so the 20% I mentioned would be €800. 00:06:53.917 --> 00:06:57.843 If we set it at €800, some of you with below-average wages 00:06:57.964 --> 00:07:01.829 would be worse off after the reform, and we won't do that. 00:07:02.010 --> 00:07:05.329 We'll rather come up with a sustainable system, 00:07:05.503 --> 00:07:07.343 so we've decided on €600. 00:07:07.590 --> 00:07:11.223 This isn't the end. It's a temporary measure 00:07:11.344 --> 00:07:15.276 intended to show you that we aren't just making promises, 00:07:15.423 --> 00:07:19.501 but that it will go into effect on January 1 of this year. 00:07:19.622 --> 00:07:23.703 That's it as far as wage system reform is concerned.