WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:04.839 Dear journalists and other media representatives, welcome 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:09.090 to today's press conference in the wake of the first regular 00:00:09.250 --> 00:00:13.570 meeting of the National Security Council during the present term. 00:00:13.703 --> 00:00:18.136 We're joined by Prime Minister Golob, who also chairs the Council, 00:00:18.283 --> 00:00:20.710 and by President Pahor. 00:00:20.850 --> 00:00:24.463 The broad security situation due to Russia's aggression 00:00:24.584 --> 00:00:28.683 against Ukraine was the topic. Prime Minister Golob will now 00:00:28.837 --> 00:00:30.437 tell you more. 00:00:30.577 --> 00:00:33.843 Thank you and hello. Mr. President. 00:00:34.150 --> 00:00:37.916 Today, we had the first regular meeting 00:00:38.103 --> 00:00:41.236 of the strategic Council for National Security 00:00:41.383 --> 00:00:47.116 in its new composition. We invited all the party heads, 00:00:47.270 --> 00:00:50.137 the leadership of the National Assembly, 00:00:50.257 --> 00:00:51.923 and the President. 00:00:52.410 --> 00:00:56.289 The debate was about the effect of the Russian aggression 00:00:56.410 --> 00:00:59.023 on the security situation in Slovenia. 00:00:59.157 --> 00:01:01.996 The debate was assisted by briefers. 00:01:02.123 --> 00:01:07.003 We examined the situation in both Ukraine and Slovenia 00:01:07.230 --> 00:01:11.443 in all the relevant areas, from foreign policy 00:01:11.630 --> 00:01:16.796 to legal matters, domestic policy, infrastructure, and intelligence. 00:01:17.803 --> 00:01:22.650 The good news is that, here in Slovenia, 00:01:22.817 --> 00:01:27.270 we haven't seen any increased risk. 00:01:27.563 --> 00:01:31.463 Of course, the situation in Ukraine is truly critical, 00:01:31.610 --> 00:01:35.723 as you know. It has been especially critical since 00:01:35.903 --> 00:01:39.183 the beginning of systematic Russian attacks 00:01:39.570 --> 00:01:43.923 on civilian and energy infrastructure. 00:01:44.070 --> 00:01:48.003 They're no longer going after military targets. 00:01:48.510 --> 00:01:54.080 Instead, they want to deplete the will of the Ukrainians 00:01:54.203 --> 00:01:59.356 to defend themselves and exhaust the Ukrainian state. 00:02:01.783 --> 00:02:06.680 Finally, we unanimously passed a resolution 00:02:07.210 --> 00:02:10.896 that we've familiarized ourselves with the situation 00:02:11.257 --> 00:02:16.830 and came to a joint conclusion 00:02:17.497 --> 00:02:20.723 that as long as Ukrainian people have the will 00:02:20.910 --> 00:02:23.650 to defend themselves, it is our obligation 00:02:23.823 --> 00:02:25.663 to support them. 00:02:26.930 --> 00:02:31.323 We have no right to force them to accept solutions 00:02:31.463 --> 00:02:33.143 that they do not accept. 00:02:33.503 --> 00:02:37.730 The President and I agree that it's important 00:02:37.877 --> 00:02:40.556 for this message to be sent unanimously, 00:02:40.737 --> 00:02:44.056 on behalf of Slovenia's entire political arena 00:02:44.177 --> 00:02:46.483 and all branches of government. 00:02:47.690 --> 00:02:51.323 It gives the maximum support to all the efforts 00:02:51.517 --> 00:02:54.723 of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. 00:02:55.277 --> 00:03:00.170 Thank you. We'll now give the floor to President Pahor. 00:03:00.357 --> 00:03:04.116 I'll begin by stating that the actions 00:03:04.263 --> 00:03:07.970 of the Slovenian government are appropriate 00:03:08.143 --> 00:03:11.423 both domestically and internationally, especially 00:03:11.530 --> 00:03:15.110 within the EU and the West, of which we are a part. 00:03:15.603 --> 00:03:19.870 I feel it's important that we take steps to maintain internal 00:03:19.997 --> 00:03:27.457 political unity in how we view Russia's aggression 00:03:27.670 --> 00:03:34.343 against Ukraine, and to be a part of a unified Western world 00:03:34.464 --> 00:03:38.263 in how we're facing these security, political, economic, 00:03:38.384 --> 00:03:40.043 and other threats. 00:03:40.223 --> 00:03:43.690 The Prime Minister mentioned an important message, 00:03:43.811 --> 00:03:48.196 which we're repeating in the wake of the National Security Council 00:03:48.377 --> 00:03:52.536 meeting: As long as the people of Ukraine and their government 00:03:52.710 --> 00:03:59.280 have the will to exercise their right to self defense, 00:03:59.470 --> 00:04:02.396 we have no right to impose peace at all cost 00:04:02.557 --> 00:04:04.157 against their will. 00:04:04.757 --> 00:04:09.003 We feel that this unanimous opinion is important 00:04:09.463 --> 00:04:16.119 because it's very human to ask ourselves 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:21.576 how and when we can resolve the war using peaceful means. 00:04:21.750 --> 00:04:25.803 We can do that when the Ukrainian people 00:04:25.923 --> 00:04:29.696 and their legitimate leadership make that decision. 00:04:30.030 --> 00:04:34.030 Thank you very much. We'll take two questions on this topic, 00:04:34.151 --> 00:04:37.863 which is crucial for Slovenia, Europe, and the world. 00:04:37.997 --> 00:04:40.929 Please introduce yourself and state for whom 00:04:41.090 --> 00:04:43.789 your question is intended. 00:04:44.483 --> 00:04:47.376 Metka Majer, POP TV. 00:04:50.437 --> 00:04:54.663 Since members of the opposition were present here: 00:04:54.823 --> 00:04:58.009 Before the meeting, the head of the SDS stated 00:04:58.130 --> 00:05:00.963 that he would point out the differences 00:05:01.117 --> 00:05:08.036 between your words and the votes of the coalition's MEPs, 00:05:08.537 --> 00:05:14.496 which he sees as pro-Russian. Have you discussed that? 00:05:14.750 --> 00:05:21.348 Regarding the opposition, since Mr. Tonin attended 00:05:21.469 --> 00:05:28.850 the meeting, and he is the former Minister of Defense, 00:05:29.483 --> 00:05:37.323 did you discuss any differences regarding the procurement contracts? 00:05:38.497 --> 00:05:43.136 Thank you for the question. I'll give a straightforward answer. 00:05:43.290 --> 00:05:45.756 We were unanimous today. 00:05:46.217 --> 00:05:50.209 There were no differences among our conclusions, 00:05:50.750 --> 00:05:55.243 be it from the coalition, the opposition, the government, 00:05:55.397 --> 00:05:58.323 the National Assembly, or the President. 00:05:58.430 --> 00:06:01.809 This message of unity is the most important. 00:06:02.037 --> 00:06:06.609 We debated some of these different views, if you will. 00:06:06.983 --> 00:06:13.062 I believe that the true situation is much less... 00:06:13.183 --> 00:06:16.949 that these views are more coordinated than they may seem. 00:06:17.070 --> 00:06:20.543 Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. 00:06:20.670 --> 00:06:23.996 As for Slovenia's policies, 00:06:24.410 --> 00:06:30.083 they don't depend on individual MEPs, but rather on institutions. 00:06:30.243 --> 00:06:34.176 The policy of this government has been consistent. 00:06:34.330 --> 00:06:38.362 We've always put it up for a vote in the National Assembly, 00:06:38.483 --> 00:06:41.709 where we've always received unanimous support. 00:06:41.830 --> 00:06:46.670 I believe we must and will remain united here in Slovenia. 00:06:47.217 --> 00:06:50.589 It wouldn't make sense to comment on anything else, 00:06:50.710 --> 00:06:55.222 because individuals are individuals, while we represent the country, 00:06:55.343 --> 00:06:58.115 and this is what counts. -President Pahor, 00:06:58.236 --> 00:07:00.860 anything you'd like to add? -No thanks. 00:07:00.981 --> 00:07:03.788 A question from Gašper Lubej, Al Jazeera. 00:07:06.743 --> 00:07:10.296 Hello. I'd like to know when the government 00:07:10.543 --> 00:07:13.183 will decide on the mission to Ukraine 00:07:13.330 --> 00:07:16.383 and what form that cooperation will take. 00:07:16.637 --> 00:07:21.602 I'm thinking of the EU mission, the EUAM mission. 00:07:21.723 --> 00:07:25.563 The government has decided to send this to Parliament, 00:07:25.757 --> 00:07:28.895 so when will it be finalized and in what form? 00:07:29.016 --> 00:07:33.109 As you mentioned, the government has already taken positions 00:07:33.230 --> 00:07:37.176 regarding this matter. Slovenia is determined to take part. 00:07:37.323 --> 00:07:41.656 To clarify this for the public, we're talking 00:07:41.777 --> 00:07:45.550 about a training program for the Ukrainian forces 00:07:45.717 --> 00:07:50.109 that isn't taking place in Slovenia. It will take place elsewhere. 00:07:50.643 --> 00:07:54.909 The other details will be coordinated with our allies. 00:07:55.070 --> 00:07:59.017 I'm confident that the Parliament will confirm this. 00:07:59.337 --> 00:08:01.937 I can't tell you when this will happen. 00:08:02.058 --> 00:08:06.522 The Government will look at this before it returns to Parliament... 00:08:06.643 --> 00:08:11.229 The Government will approve this, but we're waiting for the procedure 00:08:11.350 --> 00:08:15.668 to be completed, and we're not seeing any obstacles on this path. 00:08:15.789 --> 00:08:18.922 We're determined to join our European allies 00:08:19.043 --> 00:08:22.590 and participate in this mission as an equal member. 00:08:23.083 --> 00:08:28.723 Thank you both for joining us. -Thank you. 00:08:28.910 --> 00:08:31.156 And now... 00:08:31.277 --> 00:08:36.856 The Prime Minister will answer these questions in the days ahead. 00:08:37.043 --> 00:08:40.730 We'll now be joined by the head of NSi, Matej Tonin. 00:08:43.137 --> 00:08:45.070 We're waiting for him. 00:08:45.177 --> 00:08:47.310 Go ahead, Mr. Tonin. 00:08:47.477 --> 00:08:51.129 The middle podium is yours. 00:08:52.790 --> 00:08:56.803 Hello. The meeting of the National Security Council 00:08:56.937 --> 00:08:58.789 was useful in my view. 00:08:59.210 --> 00:09:03.363 We exchanged views and opinions of the current situation 00:09:03.589 --> 00:09:08.588 in Ukraine and the role of Slovenia in regard to Ukraine. 00:09:08.750 --> 00:09:13.830 I'm happy that we came to a unanimous conclusion 00:09:13.963 --> 00:09:17.543 that we have a moral duty to support Ukraine 00:09:17.703 --> 00:09:20.800 in its efforts to preserve its independence. 00:09:20.937 --> 00:09:25.030 This is our key message. 00:09:25.150 --> 00:09:28.736 Even though we have recently seen, even in Slovenia, 00:09:28.897 --> 00:09:33.363 the emergence of various narratives calling for the warring parties 00:09:33.503 --> 00:09:36.196 to take part in negotiations, 00:09:36.323 --> 00:09:39.556 this isn't as simple as some imagine it to be. 00:09:39.770 --> 00:09:44.969 Stated very directly, if Ukraine stops fighting, 00:09:45.310 --> 00:09:47.983 we'll be faced with capitulaton, 00:09:48.170 --> 00:09:51.463 but if Russia stops fighting, we'll have peace. 00:09:51.597 --> 00:09:55.836 That's why we need to work for peace 00:09:55.937 --> 00:09:59.509 and support Ukraine as best we can. 00:09:59.743 --> 00:10:04.336 Only when Russia realizes that it can no longer 00:10:04.457 --> 00:10:08.743 obtain any military advantages will there by the diplomatic 00:10:08.877 --> 00:10:15.120 readiness for a peace treaty and a permanent peace. 00:10:15.483 --> 00:10:18.896 I'm glad that Slovenia will do its best 00:10:19.010 --> 00:10:25.296 in terms of military equipment, technology, and financial support. 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:28.836 Thank you. Any questions? Metka. 00:10:29.450 --> 00:10:32.016 To the microphone, if you will. 00:10:37.757 --> 00:10:43.050 If you were in the government, do you think Slovenia should do 00:10:43.203 --> 00:10:47.216 more to help Ukraine? Would you call for some 00:10:47.403 --> 00:10:51.636 additional activity? My second question is a political one. 00:10:51.810 --> 00:10:57.229 Correct me if I'm wrong, but for the first time 00:10:57.377 --> 00:11:02.783 since you urged the SDS head to step aside and your party 00:11:02.930 --> 00:11:06.549 indicated its lack of confidence in him, 00:11:06.723 --> 00:11:11.640 you met with him for the first time. What did that meeting look like? 00:11:13.610 --> 00:11:18.390 First, regarding the technical and military help to Ukraine. 00:11:18.870 --> 00:11:23.270 I'm happy that this government has continued 00:11:23.410 --> 00:11:28.443 to pursue the measures introduced by the previous government. 00:11:28.603 --> 00:11:34.836 This government had the power to stop the donation of BVPs, 00:11:35.097 --> 00:11:39.363 those 35 infantry vehicles. 00:11:39.623 --> 00:11:44.835 It could also have stopped the donation of M-55S tanks, 00:11:44.956 --> 00:11:49.216 but the government has continued all that, and the Ukrainians 00:11:49.337 --> 00:11:53.743 are grateful that we contributed to their military power. 00:11:53.883 --> 00:11:57.377 In this regard, I'm happy that this government 00:11:57.497 --> 00:12:00.483 has continued what we started. 00:12:00.637 --> 00:12:05.280 Frankly, even we wouldn't have been able to do more 00:12:05.401 --> 00:12:09.389 because the Slovenian Armed Forces don't have the resources 00:12:09.510 --> 00:12:13.043 to donate more than what it has donated so far. 00:12:13.197 --> 00:12:16.736 You'll remember the various readiness reviews 00:12:16.917 --> 00:12:19.556 with the President. 00:12:19.670 --> 00:12:24.983 The room to maneuver beyond what Slovenia has given 00:12:25.104 --> 00:12:32.687 was limited, but I'm grateful that this has happened. 00:12:33.237 --> 00:12:36.769 And the second question regarding relations with SDS. 00:12:36.943 --> 00:12:40.909 I have nothing to add. I've said everything I wanted to say, 00:12:41.090 --> 00:12:45.183 but your understanding was incorrect. 00:12:45.397 --> 00:12:52.583 I've only spoken about the work of NSi, while other parties 00:12:52.717 --> 00:12:56.670 is neither up to me or up to NSi. 00:12:57.337 --> 00:13:00.596 Any other questions for Mr. Tonin? 00:13:01.843 --> 00:13:05.900 No? Then I'd like to thank everyone for joining us 00:13:06.180 --> 00:13:08.733 and wish you a nice day.