WEBVTT 00:00:47.507 --> 00:00:52.270 Hello. -Hello. -Will you first answer Slovenian questions? 00:00:53.402 --> 00:00:59.604 What does the agreement the leaders reached yesterday mean for Slovenia? 00:00:59.999 --> 00:01:03.584 I am pleased that we reached an agreement 00:01:03.705 --> 00:01:06.907 on the sixth package of sanctions yesterday. 00:01:07.827 --> 00:01:11.553 This package was more demanding than the previous five. 00:01:11.679 --> 00:01:17.396 Because this includes a part of the energy package. 00:01:19.305 --> 00:01:23.299 Not all Member States are in the same situation. 00:01:23.420 --> 00:01:30.703 The most difficult thing was to find a solution for those countries 00:01:30.824 --> 00:01:36.293 that do not have access to offshore oil tankers. 00:01:36.601 --> 00:01:39.811 Fortunately, Slovenia has this access. 00:01:39.932 --> 00:01:43.203 We looked for solutions for others. 00:01:44.196 --> 00:01:48.290 Of course, this part of the energy problem, 00:01:48.411 --> 00:01:50.608 as far as sanctions are concerned, 00:01:50.729 --> 00:01:53.194 is still the easier part of the problem, 00:01:53.315 --> 00:01:57.080 the hardest part is yet to come. That's gas. 00:01:57.201 --> 00:02:04.301 Good luck to those who will find a solution for squaring the circle. 00:02:05.299 --> 00:02:09.201 As for the situation in Ukraine, 00:02:09.322 --> 00:02:12.490 sanctions, of course, are not the key issue. 00:02:12.611 --> 00:02:16.011 The key issue is the situation in Donbas, 00:02:16.401 --> 00:02:22.608 where the Russian army is advancing. It's a dry season. 00:02:22.729 --> 00:02:28.090 Russia has superiority in the air, in armour and heavy weapons. 00:02:28.211 --> 00:02:33.003 If the European Union and the West 00:02:33.124 --> 00:02:38.093 don't want to see new millions of refugees from Ukraine in a month, 00:02:38.214 --> 00:02:41.301 we must now focus on military aid to Ukraine. 00:02:41.422 --> 00:02:46.604 What will change for Slovenia after yesterday's agreement? 00:02:47.605 --> 00:02:54.500 As far as oil supply for Slovenia is concerned, 00:02:54.621 --> 00:02:59.595 those commercial companies that supply oil to Slovenia, 00:02:59.716 --> 00:03:04.629 already ensure that it is not supplied from Russian sources. 00:03:04.750 --> 00:03:12.385 If this is true, there should be no complications 00:03:12.506 --> 00:03:17.690 nor significant direct effects on energy prices. 00:03:17.811 --> 00:03:23.596 Today you will also talk about rising energy prices. What do you expect? 00:03:23.805 --> 00:03:26.582 Can you predict anything for the coming months 00:03:26.703 --> 00:03:29.990 if the crisis in Ukraine were to deepen? 00:03:31.947 --> 00:03:36.093 The topic we started yesterday is probably even more important 00:03:36.214 --> 00:03:39.170 than how much Russian oil Europe will buy. 00:03:39.291 --> 00:03:44.387 It’s not just about quantities, at the moment it’s mostly about prices. 00:03:44.508 --> 00:03:49.890 If prices are very high, Russia can sell half as much oil, 00:03:50.011 --> 00:03:54.578 but it will still have more money to finance the war in Ukraine. 00:03:54.699 --> 00:03:58.723 At the same time, when Russia invaded Ukraine, 00:03:59.451 --> 00:04:04.304 when it destabilised world markets with the war in Ukraine, 00:04:04.425 --> 00:04:08.901 it also caused higher oil or energy prices, 00:04:09.022 --> 00:04:14.296 food prices and so on. This is basically the main problem. 00:04:14.500 --> 00:04:21.432 I hope that today we will find more concrete solutions 00:04:21.553 --> 00:04:23.705 on how to influence energy prices. 00:04:23.826 --> 00:04:28.197 Europe has some instruments for this, 00:04:28.318 --> 00:04:31.584 but unfortunately, we are still prisoners 00:04:31.705 --> 00:04:34.001 of the paradigms of years ago, 00:04:34.122 --> 00:04:36.995 when there was neither war nor high prices. 00:04:37.211 --> 00:04:44.309 And when the green transition paradigm applied no matter how much it cost. 00:04:44.430 --> 00:04:46.700 These priorities now need to be reconciled. 00:04:46.821 --> 00:04:49.786 If the European Union finds the right approach, 00:04:49.907 --> 00:04:52.295 this will stabilise energy prices. 00:04:52.416 --> 00:04:54.886 What about the perspective of joint procurement? 00:04:55.007 --> 00:05:00.781 How quickly is this measure feasible? It seems a good measure in general. 00:05:00.902 --> 00:05:04.778 This measure is good, Slovenia proposed it in October last year. 00:05:04.899 --> 00:05:08.970 Formal frameworks are more or less set. 00:05:09.091 --> 00:05:13.586 However, much remains to be done 00:05:13.707 --> 00:05:16.878 by the European institutions and the Member States, 00:05:16.999 --> 00:05:20.475 because it is a matter of coordinating formal European frameworks 00:05:20.596 --> 00:05:24.586 and the commercial approach in the European single market. 00:05:24.716 --> 00:05:29.591 You have already mentioned the future of the war in Ukraine and the measures 00:05:29.712 --> 00:05:32.091 which the European Union should implement in this case. 00:05:32.212 --> 00:05:36.348 Today you are at your last summit of this term. 00:05:36.799 --> 00:05:40.181 What do you think would be most urgent 00:05:40.302 --> 00:05:45.001 for the European Union and for Slovenia within the EU? 00:05:45.693 --> 00:05:49.105 For the future of the connection and this problem? 00:05:49.226 --> 00:05:52.207 What will be the biggest challenges? 00:05:52.598 --> 00:05:56.607 Now, but also in the foreseeable future, 00:05:56.728 --> 00:05:58.938 the key challenge is the war in Ukraine. 00:05:59.059 --> 00:06:01.059 This war affects everything. 00:06:01.265 --> 00:06:06.014 It affects geostrategic balance in the world. 00:06:06.135 --> 00:06:10.283 It affects lesser potential crisis points, causing instability 00:06:10.404 --> 00:06:13.237 in the Western Balkans for example. 00:06:13.416 --> 00:06:19.142 Both Slovenian and European policy have to focus on that. 00:06:19.990 --> 00:06:27.122 At the moment the key is to stop Russian agressors. 00:06:28.045 --> 00:06:32.263 If Russia wins ground there, 00:06:32.384 --> 00:06:37.567 this will increase the appetite of the agressor, 00:06:38.131 --> 00:06:42.413 cause political instability in Ukraine, 00:06:42.921 --> 00:06:47.155 and the loss of credibility of the EU and the West 00:06:47.276 --> 00:06:52.342 which will affect prices, energy security, 00:06:53.209 --> 00:06:59.194 so the war in Ukraine will decide the future of the EU and Slovenia. 00:06:59.991 --> 00:07:04.163 Do you have any advice to your successors? 00:07:05.429 --> 00:07:11.045 I advise proactive policy. The key point is Ukraine. 00:07:12.221 --> 00:07:17.444 You need to know all the details 00:07:17.565 --> 00:07:22.709 and focus on what's important. 00:07:23.307 --> 00:07:29.166 Both Slovenian and European foreign policy 00:07:29.605 --> 00:07:36.102 should focus on that, and Slovenia will make sure 00:07:36.323 --> 00:07:39.984 that we can live in peace and prosperity. 00:07:56.222 --> 00:08:01.492 I don't like to predict the future. 00:08:02.731 --> 00:08:05.953 I was a part of the European Council for the 3rd time. 00:08:06.423 --> 00:08:13.050 At this time there is noone in the European Council 00:08:13.243 --> 00:08:17.730 who was there from 2004 to 2008. 00:08:18.266 --> 00:08:26.810 I hope that many of these brave people I've met here, 00:08:26.931 --> 00:08:33.125 especially brave female colleagues from Denmark, Finland, Sweden 00:08:33.640 --> 00:08:37.054 and Estonia will still be here, 00:08:37.175 --> 00:08:39.211 because they are the ones steerin the European boat 00:08:39.352 --> 00:08:41.268 in the right direction. 00:09:07.141 --> 00:09:14.890 As I've said many times since February, the world has changed. 00:09:15.703 --> 00:09:23.117 We are still trying to understand how important the changes are. 00:09:24.945 --> 00:09:31.470 The West and especially the EU, lacked ambition 00:09:31.591 --> 00:09:35.512 and strategic answers to the strategic challenges. 00:09:35.641 --> 00:09:43.276 The enlargement of the EU is one of the possible answers. 00:09:43.642 --> 00:09:47.425 When we are speaking about the possibility 00:09:47.546 --> 00:09:52.271 of the EU membership for Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine, 00:09:52.392 --> 00:09:57.800 it's a: Hic Rhodus, hic salta! 00:09:58.143 --> 00:10:06.046 The European Council will fail to meet the demads of the time 00:10:06.472 --> 00:10:10.515 if the candidate status is not delivered. 00:10:10.769 --> 00:10:13.593 And to be very frank, 00:10:15.214 --> 00:10:21.757 during the discussions since February 00:10:21.878 --> 00:10:27.447 I saw clear division within the EU regarding its enlargement. 00:10:28.604 --> 00:10:36.145 There are some countries that just want for aspiring 00:10:36.266 --> 00:10:41.489 countries to stay in the waiting room or even outside 00:10:42.042 --> 00:10:43.642 as long as possible 00:10:44.291 --> 00:10:49.387 and thus provide a cheap labour force for core Europe. 00:10:49.761 --> 00:10:56.390 I'm strongly against it. Europe was built on 00:10:57.042 --> 00:11:00.648 other values. 00:11:01.292 --> 00:11:05.507 I think this is a test. 00:11:05.628 --> 00:11:09.670 We see that Sweden and Finland are joining NATO. 00:11:09.900 --> 00:11:15.428 This is one of the rare bright spots 00:11:15.792 --> 00:11:19.803 in the current situation. 00:11:20.043 --> 00:11:24.662 The EU has to follow this path. 00:11:24.783 --> 00:11:29.475 It has to change the criteria 00:11:29.542 --> 00:11:37.032 and return to the original spirit of the EU. 00:11:37.292 --> 00:11:39.846 The EU was built as a peace process. 00:11:39.975 --> 00:11:43.112 Not only as a single market 00:11:43.864 --> 00:11:49.971 with prices and economy influencing everything. 00:11:50.393 --> 00:11:55.424 The Council in June will be the moment of truth.