WEBVTT 00:00:00.086 --> 00:00:05.000 First of all, thank you to Andrej for the hospitality 00:00:05.127 --> 00:00:08.710 on the occasion of this important conference 00:00:08.817 --> 00:00:13.970 and congratulations to Croatia for the excellent organization, 00:00:14.083 --> 00:00:19.763 as well as for the tourist season that is close to the record 00:00:19.830 --> 00:00:26.150 in terms of visitors from Slovenia during the summer season. 00:00:26.943 --> 00:00:31.576 This proves that even in times marked by Covid-19, 00:00:31.677 --> 00:00:37.150 good organization can help revive various affected sectors. 00:00:37.430 --> 00:00:44.303 We expect that we'll also be able to jumpstart 00:00:44.390 --> 00:00:47.723 our winter tourist season. 00:00:47.910 --> 00:00:51.303 We're looking forward to visitors from Croatia. 00:00:51.424 --> 00:00:58.240 Since we have both joined the EU, 00:00:59.010 --> 00:01:03.530 numerous unexplored opportunities await us in the tourist industry, 00:01:03.651 --> 00:01:07.410 where we can combined the summer and the winter seasons. 00:01:07.600 --> 00:01:12.920 As Croatia proved during the summer season, 00:01:13.070 --> 00:01:21.010 the use of Covid passes enabled by the European Digital Certificate 00:01:22.203 --> 00:01:29.023 revived activities that were, as recently as last year, 00:01:29.650 --> 00:01:33.803 impacted, discontinued, or strictly limited. 00:01:34.337 --> 00:01:39.950 As for the topics, I believe Andrej mentioned all of them. 00:01:40.057 --> 00:01:44.750 It's all about continuing our dialog, 00:01:45.520 --> 00:01:50.216 which isn't just about bilateral issues, but also the coordination 00:01:50.343 --> 00:01:53.330 of our positions on EU-wide topics. 00:01:54.330 --> 00:01:57.590 This is particularly important to us at a time 00:01:57.711 --> 00:02:00.576 when Slovenia is holding the EU presidency 00:02:00.697 --> 00:02:04.356 and when we're dealing with difficult issues 00:02:04.517 --> 00:02:09.423 that require coordination and international alliances 00:02:09.510 --> 00:02:14.110 for us to reach an effective compromise or consensus. 00:02:16.276 --> 00:02:23.456 In terms of tourism, which was today's topic, 00:02:23.569 --> 00:02:29.320 it's important that Croatia enters the Schengen Area 00:02:29.377 --> 00:02:33.590 and the European Monetary Union as soon as possible. 00:02:34.290 --> 00:02:40.256 These two issues are not just about formalities 00:02:40.670 --> 00:02:45.803 and the interests of both governments. 00:02:45.957 --> 00:02:53.103 The two issues also directly affect the interests 00:02:53.477 --> 00:03:01.430 of people in both countries and the EU as a whole. 00:03:02.880 --> 00:03:08.770 These things make their lives easier and more secure, 00:03:08.923 --> 00:03:13.603 which are the benefits of a single European currency. 00:03:14.050 --> 00:03:15.650 Thank you. 00:03:16.103 --> 00:03:20.719 Just one question please. You were talking about the border, 00:03:20.870 --> 00:03:25.090 so how do you see the incident on the border with Croatia, 00:03:25.237 --> 00:03:32.880 in which a group people violently chased migrants from the border? 00:03:33.157 --> 00:03:39.803 Since this has been discussed on the EU level, are you familiar 00:03:39.903 --> 00:03:43.763 with this incident, and how is Slovenia dealing 00:03:43.843 --> 00:03:46.016 with illegal immigration? 00:03:48.030 --> 00:03:55.622 The Slovenian-Croatian border is still the Schengen border. 00:03:55.870 --> 00:04:00.376 It's not the EU's external border, but it's the Schengen border. 00:04:00.497 --> 00:04:05.176 Our wish is for the EU and the Schengen borders to become 00:04:05.297 --> 00:04:07.923 one and the same as soon as possible. 00:04:08.057 --> 00:04:12.455 We believe that the current situation is both irrational 00:04:12.576 --> 00:04:16.663 and unjust to the countries that have met all the conditions 00:04:16.750 --> 00:04:20.223 to enter the Schengen Area but are still waiting 00:04:20.343 --> 00:04:24.416 for the political decision. I believe it will come sooner 00:04:24.517 --> 00:04:31.523 than we expected a year ago. As for the incident you mentioned, 00:04:32.717 --> 00:04:37.936 I'm not familiar with the details. It wasn't a major topic 00:04:38.057 --> 00:04:42.456 at the EU Summit. It wasn't brought up by the press 00:04:42.550 --> 00:04:46.236 or by the representatives of other countries. 00:04:46.410 --> 00:04:51.350 Unfortunately, this does happen 00:04:52.010 --> 00:04:57.503 because the EU still doesn't have all the necessary mechanisms 00:04:57.880 --> 00:05:02.716 that it needs to protect both the Schengen border 00:05:02.837 --> 00:05:06.183 and its own external border. It's now debating 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:11.937 the Immigration Act with six provisions 00:05:12.110 --> 00:05:17.289 that will significantly upgrade the Schengen system 00:05:17.390 --> 00:05:20.889 and strengthen control of the EU's external borders. 00:05:20.990 --> 00:05:25.423 Slovenia is trying to take this legislative process as far 00:05:25.537 --> 00:05:29.633 as possible, but different members have very different positions, 00:05:29.777 --> 00:05:35.990 so we'll be successful if we manage to pass just some of the acts. 00:05:38.440 --> 00:05:46.363 It's crucial that we get a formal distinction between refugees 00:05:46.483 --> 00:05:51.596 and illegal migrants and that this is then taken into account 00:05:51.703 --> 00:05:54.476 at the external EU border. 00:05:54.930 --> 00:05:59.063 Another related question. 00:05:59.437 --> 00:06:03.021 We have reports of these violent incidents on the border. 00:06:03.103 --> 00:06:07.503 Croatia has been criticized by various organizations 00:06:07.683 --> 00:06:15.610 for its policy of deep deterrence. Has this policy 00:06:15.890 --> 00:06:21.216 been recognized as the only solution on the EU level? 00:06:24.103 --> 00:06:32.056 Our goal is not for such policies to become acceptable or widespread. 00:06:32.177 --> 00:06:38.957 We want to create a situation that would prevent such incidents. 00:06:39.770 --> 00:06:45.830 In this case, Bosnia-Herzegovina should take on some responsibility. 00:06:45.950 --> 00:06:53.930 The problems should not be solved by passing it on to others. 00:06:55.563 --> 00:07:03.120 One of the key problems that result in such situations 00:07:03.217 --> 00:07:09.717 is the lack of a clear distinction between NGOs, which organize 00:07:09.870 --> 00:07:15.110 humanitarian aid to migrants, and human traffickers. 00:07:15.656 --> 00:07:19.576 In some cases, we're dealing with coordinated activity. 00:07:19.663 --> 00:07:27.517 This year, Slovenian police cracked down on 150 such networks. 00:07:27.638 --> 00:07:33.323 Not all of them we connected with NGOs, but some of them were. 00:07:33.444 --> 00:07:37.883 We need to be careful when dealing with such events because sometimes 00:07:38.097 --> 00:07:45.970 they can be intentionally launched or fabricated 00:07:46.417 --> 00:07:53.923 to conceal criminal activity, namely human trafficking, 00:07:54.010 --> 00:08:01.560 that is estimated to bring in €10 billion on the Balkan route alone. 00:08:02.296 --> 00:08:06.210 A question about bilateral relations, if I may. 00:08:06.303 --> 00:08:13.196 Since you mentioned fishermen, is there a solution that would 00:08:13.280 --> 00:08:17.504 prevent fishermen from both sides from getting fines that are later 00:08:17.597 --> 00:08:20.669 paid by their respective countries in their name? 00:08:20.760 --> 00:08:26.370 I hope that the answer is yes. We talked about this, and there are 00:08:26.537 --> 00:08:34.496 some proposals, but we can't discuss specific solutions 00:08:34.617 --> 00:08:39.083 until the process is completed. But we're working on this. 00:08:39.190 --> 00:08:44.123 At the forefront of this issue is our interest 00:08:44.197 --> 00:08:49.376 that people affected by these unresolved problems don't suffer. 00:08:51.430 --> 00:08:55.643 -Any other questions? -I thought you might have a comment 00:08:55.764 --> 00:08:58.849 about the border? Could these fines stop being issued? 00:08:58.963 --> 00:09:02.503 You know what the current border regime entails. 00:09:02.637 --> 00:09:05.437 We're dealing with it in such a low-key way 00:09:05.563 --> 00:09:10.756 that people aren't even aware of the problem. If the fishermen 00:09:10.877 --> 00:09:17.503 do get fined, the government refunds their expenses. 00:09:17.970 --> 00:09:21.975 We have some ideas on how to prevent this because 00:09:22.096 --> 00:09:25.349 the purpose of all this is questionable, 00:09:25.909 --> 00:09:31.596 as is the expense, since it all gets refunded in the end. 00:09:31.743 --> 00:09:37.590 It's an unnecessary process. We're discussing a solution 00:09:37.697 --> 00:09:42.339 that would be acceptable to both sides and prevent such situations. 00:09:42.487 --> 00:09:46.426 I hope we'll come to an agreement. -Thank you.